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| posted on April 18th, 2004 at 10:32 PM |
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the parts list for a fiber glass buggy what do I need and is a 62 bug a good start ?
I decided to strip the 62 ( 6 volt ) I got just to rusty in the body ,the pans ok .I removed the pan and have also got the steering electrical fuel
tank & wipers .
can I use the wiper motor on 12 volts ? or do I need I different one ?
can I use the wiring on the 12 volt conversion ?
what else do I need .
whats the go to change the rear to irs ,just mount the boxes for the arms ? thanks seagull:bounce
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| posted on April 20th, 2004 at 12:32 AM |
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help ! any one
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| posted on April 20th, 2004 at 06:32 AM |
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I would not use the wiring i would use all new stuff, I have heard the 6 volt wipers will work but I can not imagine that they would work for long as
I guess they were not designed to run 12 volts, A duel circuit brake master cylinder is a good idea as well. The fuel tank may work depending where
you want your inlet in your bonnet. For irs mount your pivot arm boxes and bolt it all up I think. If you are going to be doing all that maybe you
should think about rear adjusters at this stage as it will be easyier to instal them now.
WEll at least if I am wrong I am sure people will correct me and you will get some feed back for your post
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| posted on April 20th, 2004 at 09:38 PM |
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Andy ,thanks for sending me the photos of your pan Ta . seagull
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| posted on April 20th, 2004 at 09:45 PM |
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the old wiper motors will work if u use a resistor.....but get some 12 volt 2 speed ones from a superbug
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
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| posted on April 20th, 2004 at 09:58 PM |
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cool thanks
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| posted on April 20th, 2004 at 10:10 PM |
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Its not worth converting an early pan to IRS as the rear shock tower castings are different to that of a late model pan. What happens is the IRS
trailing arm will hit at the point where the brake line is mounted on the arm when the suspension is compressed,stopping valuable wheel travel. You
need to use a 1500 pan ,superbug pan(rear section), or a automatic/76 Irs pan.
If you want to run King/link front end then you just use the front section of the early pan when you are shortening/converting.:thumb
Talk to Buggy Brad about the adjusters, well worth doing.
[Edited on 20-4-2004 by Craig Torrens]
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 posted on April 22nd, 2004 at 06:47 PM |
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no 62' pan!
don't do it.
I have a 62 pan under my car and am suffering the IRS arm issues craig told you about.
Apparently the best basis is the superbug pan with a balljoint framehead.
Probably would have done that myself if I'd known.
Still life is about learning lessons isn't it? :o
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| posted on April 23rd, 2004 at 02:31 AM |
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mmm I have a disk brake conv Ford EA have done 16 odd the brake line runs at the back of the arm , as to stop this .Is this ok ?? have you a photo I
am lost ??:beer
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| posted on April 23rd, 2004 at 03:51 PM |
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Seagull, that will stop the brake line being damaged, but it will not stop the trailing arm from pounding on the cast shock towers !!!!
Remember this problem will only occur if you have done an IRS conversion on a old 6v pan (up to 67') .If the pan is a late model 12v (balljoint)
swing axle or IRS pan you won't have the problem .
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| posted on April 26th, 2004 at 10:31 PM |
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Ok so I think I will cut off the cast shock towers and weld my own on from 65mm x 40 rhs , this way I can cut off the lower shocky mount and make a
bracket up heigher out of the way .I would like to keep the rear as is and add the boxes for the irs to the rear torsion bar .
I would need to mesure up the torsion bars first to see if I can do this first ,seagull
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| posted on April 26th, 2004 at 10:57 PM |
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dont forget to bash the shit out of the horns to get inner cv clearance. getting rid of the lower shok mounts and moving them higher is a good move
both for swing & irs. need top mount ponts to be strong. mine & lots ive seen are picked up by roll bar support making a strong triange for
support.
still, rather than mod a swinger, get a super pan. use its already irs backend and (usually better than'62) floor and weld on your 62 king & link
pin front. cast off the front torsion bar and if we wait for brad & split bus au's measurments, get hold of some split ute spindles, backing
plates and drums, machine the 62 beetle front torsion arms to accept the split ute link pins, bolt it all up and drive away with irs back and lifted
front. if you want more weld in front adjusters and poss rear ajusters althoug the most useful mod will prob be for addtional rear shoks as they
really start to work as the speed & terrain increases.
the jeff hibbard bajas and buggies book is a good read too...
just dont buy the stuff i want when i want it ....
:jesus
[Edited on 26-4-2004 by helterskelter400]
[Edited on 26-4-2004 by helterskelter400]
i blame the home brew for the need to edit edit edit.....
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| posted on April 26th, 2004 at 11:16 PM |
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I have lots of shit in my shed you have been to visit me so there ! kettle is on make your own tea ! get your buggy up to perth ( if it can make it )
Shit we have off road race cars but when you need to get some thing on the road different story !
I have a set off long arms finding the spindels is another problem .
I would like to lift it heigh so I did two thing cut the shity fiberglass off were it fixes to the pan ( it was not good any way ) I to a ( factory
lift on that 65 to 80mm , then get the front and rear end sorted high .
I seen a big lift kit in a manx the other day in Perth twin port big bore motor . seagull O a get the wife to sow your pockets up on your visit !
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| posted on April 26th, 2004 at 11:33 PM |
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you're in a league of your own seagull. i saw the torsion arms & travel you rigged onto your toolbox were they wrights.
get your buggy up to perth ( if it can make it )
get the wife to sow your pockets up on your visit !
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| posted on April 26th, 2004 at 11:54 PM |
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hey what are you drinking .I am lost to what you mean toolbox ?? O the arms ?? thats it I hope !:beer
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| posted on April 26th, 2004 at 11:55 PM |
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mmm If I use those arm the wheel will come back to far ? and take out my turning area at the rear of the wheel ??
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| posted on April 27th, 2004 at 12:02 AM |
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surley you got a 4,6 8 10" wider beam at the ready. no worries bout tyres fowling pan then. just glass it all to match...
btw.
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| posted on April 27th, 2004 at 12:15 AM |
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mmm i think i keep it stock get it lic then monster it when i get it home .There is lots of bits on the race car but dont wish to pull it off .
sand rails do line work I gess there as strong as they can be for that work .
I will be bashing this beast off the road , so needs to be strong and safe so I put the full cage in it as well as side protection .
Its a basic fiberglass body short going to stretch it long wheel bass 4 seater .I stick the wrx motor in it or a stock ej20 or 22 what every I can
find first .seagull
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| posted on April 27th, 2004 at 12:16 AM |
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O as i have the adaper plate in stock !
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| posted on April 27th, 2004 at 10:56 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by helterskelter400
get hold of some split ute spindles, backing plates and drums, machine the 62 beetle front torsion arms to accept the split ute link pins, bolt it all
up and drive away with irs back and lifted front
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Split ute Spindles? Do they have the steering arm on the top same as Country Buggy Spindles? ormal Splittu spindles have the steering arm on the
bottom.
If they do have the arm on the top do you have any idea what year of split ute they are from?
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| posted on April 27th, 2004 at 12:12 PM |
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i, like many others are waiting on the final ingerdients for the recepie from thread
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=21528
once it is known, there will be a rush for parts.
i heard that cbs used the hd split ute spindles but then i've heard that these are the same as other split spindles. there are lots of diff storys.
at the end of the day its a cb so it should be pretty simple and not involve too much special stuff.
what we need is to get the two spindles side by side & hit them with verniers.
as to whether the steering arm is on top or bottom of spindle on cb. i cant remember. i will try and get to take picks of my freinds one for
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