| [ Total Views: 1244 | Total Replies: 10 | Thread Id: 23384 ] |
|
|
 dak dak ute
Seriously Crusin Dubber
Posts: 119
Threads: 15
Registered: May 19th, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: 400km north of brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: want my ute!!!!
|
| posted on May 24th, 2004 at 05:51 PM |
|
|
redux hubs on beetle
hey, i was wondering what you have to do to get redux hubs on a bug, is it possible to fit them to an irs rear end with some modifications to the
axles???? if any one knows or has any ideas please let me know
|
|
|
Craig Torrens
A.k.a.: Craig Torrens
Scirocco Rare
6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
Posts: 8040
Threads: 347
Registered: January 10th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Time to go Salt lake racing, and actually achieve a result.
|
| posted on May 24th, 2004 at 05:53 PM |
|
|
Will not fit IRS.
What are you trying to achieve, a change of gearing or ground clearance ?
|
|
|
dak dak ute
Seriously Crusin Dubber
Posts: 119
Threads: 15
Registered: May 19th, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: 400km north of brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: want my ute!!!!
|
| posted on May 24th, 2004 at 05:55 PM |
|
|
gearing and lift
|
|
|
Craig Torrens
A.k.a.: Craig Torrens
Scirocco Rare
6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
Posts: 8040
Threads: 347
Registered: January 10th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Time to go Salt lake racing, and actually achieve a result.
|
| posted on May 24th, 2004 at 05:58 PM |
|
|
and I assume your beetle is IRS now?
Use a Kombi gearbox with Kombi CV's and raise your suspension, this will be the best and easiest way to acheive what you're after.
|
|
|
dak dak ute
Seriously Crusin Dubber
Posts: 119
Threads: 15
Registered: May 19th, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: 400km north of brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: want my ute!!!!
|
| posted on May 24th, 2004 at 06:02 PM |
|
|
currently swing axle, want big, if i cant get it high, i am gonna go the opposite and drop it, its a beetle ute. and i want it to be big,
|
|
|
Craig Torrens
A.k.a.: Craig Torrens
Scirocco Rare
6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
Posts: 8040
Threads: 347
Registered: January 10th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Time to go Salt lake racing, and actually achieve a result.
|
| posted on May 24th, 2004 at 06:06 PM |
|
|
If its a swing axle, then you can fit the reduction gearbox like the Country buggy has.................easy.(early Kombi)
|
|
|
dak dak ute
Seriously Crusin Dubber
Posts: 119
Threads: 15
Registered: May 19th, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: 400km north of brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: want my ute!!!!
|
| posted on May 24th, 2004 at 06:11 PM |
|
|
ive been told the tend to flip,
what ratio are they????
do i need to get them complianced???
|
|
|
killakornkobb
A.k.a.: Damien
Custom Title Time!
where's that clutch?
Posts: 1663
Threads: 149
Registered: March 28th, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: Rowville, Melbourne
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Pierced
|
| posted on May 24th, 2004 at 09:01 PM |
|
|
i've never seen a beetle ute.. anywhere i could see a pic? |
|
|
fetid_swamp
Seriously Crusin Dubber
Posts: 174
Threads: 5
Registered: September 29th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: freaky brother
|
| posted on May 24th, 2004 at 09:19 PM |
|
|
prone to rolling???
not really, if anything only slightly more than std swinger as its a bit higher and due to lower ratio, a bit more respoinsive.
lower ratio aprarently orig made so WW2 kubels could idle at marching speed. i dunno.
use good shoks as with a "good" motor, torque reaction lifts susp and can cause bad susp hop poss leading to bent spring plates....
althou there are some v good ones, this pik should put everyone off beetle utes.
| Error |
| Sorry, you must be a registered user in order to download attachments. |
|
|
|
|
dak dak ute
Seriously Crusin Dubber
Posts: 119
Threads: 15
Registered: May 19th, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: 400km north of brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: want my ute!!!!
|
| posted on May 24th, 2004 at 09:43 PM |
|
|
if i use redux hubs should i still wind the sprins up, or you think i will get enough lift with redux hubs and 31's???? and what would be the best
way to lift the front and what size tyres can i fit
|
|
|
fetid_swamp
Seriously Crusin Dubber
Posts: 174
Threads: 5
Registered: September 29th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: freaky brother
|
| posted on May 24th, 2004 at 10:00 PM |
|
|
should be enough lift with red boxes alone. btw, just read whole of post.. you know red boxes are swing axle only not double jointed axle???
for the front. if ball joint, best get 181 stuff (through Bugy Brad??). if link & king pin, await final installment from godzilla,
splitbusaustralia & buggy brad...... was it BJ who's looking at recasting country buggy spindles and carriers??
With tyres, the same answer as always, you can fit as big tyres as you want that dont rub on the pan, susp or body or else.....
|
|
|
dak dak ute
Seriously Crusin Dubber
Posts: 119
Threads: 15
Registered: May 19th, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: 400km north of brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: want my ute!!!!
|
| posted on May 24th, 2004 at 10:15 PM |
|
|
[img]c:\dane\beetle\untitled.bmp[/img]
here it is at the moment, any idea what sort of gearing i would get???
|
|
|
ratty 63
A.k.a.: Rossco
Custom Title Time!
Posts: 1083
Threads: 74
Registered: October 1st, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Gold Coast, Qld
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Just cured my shed envy! 
|
| posted on May 25th, 2004 at 10:56 AM |
|
|
Fitting a reduction box rear from a Splitty into a swing axel bug is possible, however it does have its problems (as mentioned above - suspension
lifting under power, can cause bigger problems off road).
My brother attempted to replicate the CB rear by fitting a Splitty rear into his Baja. It went in with a few custom manufactured brackets on the
spring plates - the Kombi rear is slightly wider than a bug - and it drove OK as long as you were gentle on the throttle. Sudden application of power
would cause the back of the car to lift a couple of INCHES(!) at any speed (we tried it right up to 100km/h) Looked funny, but not really practical.
We were planning on trying different things to reduce the amount of lift, until my Brother buckled a springplate whilst climbing a steep rocky track
and came very close to rolling the car (at least 2 wheels off the ground! ). The decision was made at this point to return to a standard swing axel rear and just put bigger tyres for more ground
clearance. Works much better.
It may be obvoius, but the reduction box rears also cause the engine to rev much harder to achieve the same speed. This could be rectified by
changing the gearbox ratios, but.....
Only a couple of days after the spring plate buckled, we spoke to an owner of a CB who was looking for a springplate to suit as he had done exactly
the same thing to the CB - so the factory set-up suffers from the same problem.
R
[Edited on 25-5-2004 by ratty 63]
|
|
|
