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| posted on May 30th, 2004 at 10:20 PM |
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Super charging 1641
Is an 1641 motor is the best for super charging ?
what cam would be used for this ??
heads stock ?
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| posted on May 31st, 2004 at 10:38 PM |
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Hello Mate,
From what I understand, the 1641 is just a 1600 with a bore kit...thus thinner barrels. You would be better with the stock size barrels to cope with
the extra stress....
Go to the A.J.Simms website....lowbudgetracing.com or just lowbudget.com...he sells a bolt on turbo kit for a stock 1600 for $2000 U.S. It fits under
the lid and if you go to the dyno results and 1/4 mile times he is getting 14 seconds out of a stock turbo 1600 which can be driven daily with
standard irs gear ratios.
Thats impressive. With the blower, what carb and unit etc are you planning on using??
The cam should be kept close to standard and the heads could probably use a little unshrouding of the valves and a minor port job. You can keep
standard size valves though.
Give us you planned specs.....
Matt
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| posted on June 1st, 2004 at 12:53 AM |
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Thanks Boof a few more late nights in the shed coming up .
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| posted on June 1st, 2004 at 11:07 PM |
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Seagull, (Neil??)
I thought you were going Subaru power? Are you still sellign all your vw gear if you aren't going Subi? What changed your mind?
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| posted on June 2nd, 2004 at 12:08 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Seagull, (Neil??)
I thought you were going Subaru power? Are you still sellign all your vw gear if you aren't going Subi? What changed your mind?
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What changed his mind?
The awsome power of the DAK DAK .........LOL:thumb
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| posted on June 2nd, 2004 at 12:25 AM |
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Jamie , yep subaru is for me ,I can build two more 1641 with the parts I have and have a super charger as well ,just looking for some ideas for a
cheap build with power to go ! seagull
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| posted on June 2nd, 2004 at 01:02 AM |
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Yeh, it is very interesting allright. I am just getting into it and looking at the possibilities. Food for thought certainly.
So you are going super rather than turbo? Why have you made that choice? I don't know much about superchargign so I was wonderign if/why it is
better.
With regard to turbos etc, have you had a look at
http://www.dune-buggy.com/turbo/index.htm
It is an excellent source of info with heaps of links too. It has helped me get going at least understanding it.
Go the "dak dak".
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| posted on June 2nd, 2004 at 01:16 AM |
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well I have water cooled turbos in my mates shed ,and a super charger I can get very cheap like $300.00 or less .The turbo needs lots of pipe work
headers ect ,and the super charger would be very easy for me , The other thing I can turn it off when I dont want it ,Um sure for the last one , hee
hee .I am not sure what power would be there never been in a fast super charged vw , I seen one the other day in Perth Oval but did not think it was
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| posted on June 2nd, 2004 at 01:34 PM |
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Hey All,
A really cheap way to turbo is to use standard header and just run a single pipe from the standard flange up to the turbo which sits just above the
generator. On the left of the turbo you have a dcoe draw through and on the otherside of the turbo, the exhaust pipe runs back down and out. A "t"
piece inlet manifold similar to standard attatches to the bottom of the turbo. There you have it....
see ...www.mufflermike.com and look at "Jims turbo set up"
Lots of guys run this.........very cheap.
Matt
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| posted on June 9th, 2004 at 10:05 AM |
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There is a 1641 superchargeg kombi running a toyota blower for sale on the forum, under "fatso for sale"
Interested to know his set up..carbs etc....
Matt
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| posted on June 14th, 2004 at 01:29 AM |
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what is the average power output of a supercharged 1641 with standard heads?
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| posted on June 14th, 2004 at 01:30 AM |
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what is the average power output of a supercharged 1641 with standard heads? and a dual kadron setup?
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| posted on June 15th, 2004 at 10:24 PM |
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There is no average, as there are not enough around , let alone with the same specs.
You probably couldnt run kadrons with a blower....the blower set up comes in two forms like a turbo....draw through or blow through.
Draw through is where the carb is mounted before the blower and a blow through(usually fuel injected) is where the blower is blowing through the
chosen place of fuel delivery.
What did they used to say....a judson made a 1200 go like a 1500...so a small toyota blower may make 1641 go like a 1800 kombi motor.....anyone
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Matt
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