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posted on January 24th, 2005 at 08:50 AM


What's the Insurance cost per year for a turbo subie in a beetle ?



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posted on January 24th, 2005 at 08:58 AM


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what is involved in putting an ej20t intoa 67 split screen bus?:duh


you might want to think about how much extra stress that will put on the chassis. I have it on good authority from a splitty guru that they are notoriously weak in that department and that too much torque is real bad for them. it gives them nasty twists. mind you, he was talking about V6s, but then, an EJ20T delivers serious torque.




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posted on January 24th, 2005 at 03:04 PM


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I agree with everything said so far, but in favour of aircooled, VW engine is lighter.. less weight behind rear axle, generally better ground clearance, power to weight difference not as bad as you think... I would still get a subi engine though.


surely no lighter then an ea81? still more performance then a stock 2l bus engine, but alloy and smaller capacity. your right about clearance though, stock headers and sump are VERY low.




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posted on January 24th, 2005 at 10:35 PM


Yeah Pete Kimm told me, that too. Guess I'll have to strengthen my chassis heh.
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posted on January 24th, 2005 at 10:54 PM


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What's the Insurance cost per year for a turbo subie in a beetle ?


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My old bug was insured for $19,000 with Shannons for about $900 a year. Limlt of 10,000 klms per year. It was considred to be a maximum risk so I think a subie powered bug would be about the same. Im an old careful driver as well.

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posted on January 25th, 2005 at 08:32 AM


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Yeah Pete Kimm told me, that too. Guess I'll have to strengthen my chassis heh.


be hard to know how to do that that best. strengthening one spot would leave others weaker and vice versa. It's not hard to see why that blue porsche powered samba in the US had a full tube chassis.




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posted on January 25th, 2005 at 01:14 PM


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What's the Insurance cost per year for a turbo subie in a beetle ?


I have my Baja insured with Shannons.

When I did the V6 transplant I rang and told them about the conversion. They added the details to my policy and that was it. I asked how it will effect my insurance cost and they said it won't. And nearly two years later it hasn't.

So basically, it should be the same as classically insured modified beetle.




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posted on January 26th, 2005 at 05:58 PM


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be hard to know how to do that that best. strengthening one spot would leave others weaker and vice versa. It's not hard to see why that blue porsche powered samba in the US had a full tube chassis.


I've been scratching my head over this and I'm thinking maybe a roll cage type frame bracing the forks rear torsion housing and forward to the chassis rails at the front suspension, but I am very open to suggestions
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posted on January 26th, 2005 at 07:23 PM


Guys,

Got a quote from VIGIL.... which is associated with Shannons...car has to be modofied.

Quote with alll my mods and insured for $15000 was $915 per year..I get the wreck if smashed and choice of repairer.

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posted on January 29th, 2005 at 04:18 PM


Good news Matt...I have been dealing with Shannons for years....Great crew to deal with. As for insurance, generally....It is different from state to state!
And engineering legalities are different also.

Jonno...Fitting a EJ20T in a TIII is a piece of cake....The only real issue you will have, being that your car is a 'Square', is clearnace over the intercooler/heatexchanger. It will sit about 150mm higher and 350mm further forward of the front engine bay firewall!
Maybe look at building in a new 'false' floor/engine cover...
And you don't need an engineer to build anything for you, you just need an automotive engineer to 'permit' the fabrication that you do.




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posted on January 30th, 2005 at 12:07 AM


The cost of that is about $600.00



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posted on February 1st, 2005 at 10:05 PM


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I've been scratching my head over this and I'm thinking maybe a roll cage type frame bracing the forks rear torsion housing and forward to the chassis rails at the front suspension, but I am very open to suggestions


Maybe a hoop behind the front seat going down to the beam, then another hoop in the back going down to the rear end. The two tied together over head and down the non-door side, and then some bar work round the back end so you could support the motor. This barwork could all tie into the back hoop, surely that would stiffen up the whole car heaps.




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posted on February 1st, 2005 at 10:33 PM


Thanks for the insurance answers.............good value compared to a WRX !



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posted on February 1st, 2005 at 10:55 PM


I actually got the official insurance quote today in the mail.... $667.....maybe I should modify the wifes Landcruiser, and change insurer.

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posted on February 2nd, 2005 at 12:21 AM


So boof....What would you do to the Landy....

Convert it into a SYNCRO!!!

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posted on February 2nd, 2005 at 12:23 AM


Fit a v8 toyota me think then the super charger



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posted on February 2nd, 2005 at 11:14 PM
get a scooby inta ya!!


i can sit on 120kph all day long (or more for that matter but i cant afford the points) and not get over 80degrees, and not worry about cooking my engine,

can stock busses do that?
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