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 Baja Wes
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Fuel Saving Devices
Don't you just love a bit of scientific testing...
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars_trucks/1802932.html
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| posted on August 8th, 2006 at 02:13 PM |
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Yeh...some of these products are like buying dehydrated water...
[ Edited on 8-8-06 by Mick H ]
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| posted on September 28th, 2006 at 12:34 AM |
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Check out this website too http://www.joecell.com.au
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MickH
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| posted on September 28th, 2006 at 08:35 AM |
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Looks like a dehydrated water maker..... 
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Baja Wes
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| posted on October 3rd, 2006 at 09:43 AM |
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http://www.pureenergysystems.com/academy/JoeCell2006/
NEC Announces Substitute Presentation for Joe Cell Seminar - Due to the lack of a validation of Peter Stevens' claims to run a vehicle on a Joe
Cell with fuel line disconnected, substitute presentations on clean fuel conversions and the Proell effect are now planned for the July 30 seminar in
Salt Lake City.
Pretty funny that the guy pushing the technology gets invited to a hippy convention to show-case it, and then gets cancelled from the line-up because
he couldn't provide a running example 
These free energy people are funny. It's just a pity that they give so much false hope to so many people.
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MickH
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| posted on October 3rd, 2006 at 10:08 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Baja Wes
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/academy/JoeCell2006/
NEC Announces Substitute Presentation for Joe Cell Seminar - Due to the lack of a validation of Peter Stevens' claims to run a vehicle on a Joe
Cell with fuel line disconnected, substitute presentations on clean fuel conversions and the Proell effect are now planned for the July 30 seminar in
Salt Lake City.
Pretty funny that the guy pushing the technology gets invited to a hippy convention to show-case it, and then gets cancelled from the line-up because
he couldn't provide a running example
These free energy people are funny. It's just a pity that they give so much false hope to so many people.
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What is dissapointing is that so many people actually believe this stuff. Just gotta remember...ASS/GAS or GRASS..no-one rides for free.:duh
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| posted on October 3rd, 2006 at 10:42 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Mick H
Yeh...some of these products are like buying dehydrated water...
[ Edited on 8-8-06 by Mick H ]
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BWAHAAHAH!!!
want best mileage and economy? good tune and timing, and u should be set 
btw, wes, thats a dam good read that u posted up. Dam good case study... just feel sorry for the money they spent during the study... $400 for a
dud... HOLY CRAP!
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| posted on September 7th, 2007 at 05:45 AM |
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I once found an excellent fuel saving device. He was about six foot tall and handed me a ticket. Save me heaps on fuel. One tank lasted 3 months!!
What my garage isn't messy........Well chaos is a form of order isn't it?
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| posted on July 7th, 2008 at 05:26 PM |
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I,ve met that guy!!!!!
Cheers Col
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Hi,
I was just reading yesterday about running Your car on water...
the adds were there on websites all the time
normally $264 Now $39-99 [something like that]
turns out all it is, is instructions to make hydrogen
and run Your car on it...
I saw a diagram of it...
and they say all the components can be easily obtained??
some of the ones I saw , would be difficult to find and could cost many thousands of dollars..
another one was - running your car on compressed air.... lol
I have enough trouble putting it in My tyres... lol
I must admit - I did buy a magnet in a nice yellow cover that fitted over your fuel hose...
it was cheap on ebay...
I complained about something and he sent me another one, My Son tried it...
naturally they did nothing...
although if any metal particles [rust] had come thru the fuel line, the magnet would have stopped them...
still that doesn't give you better economy
just means you need a new fuel tank
Lee
PS: OK I didn't believe an engine could run on water...
but thought that by magnetizing the fuel, it would make a difference..
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| posted on June 25th, 2009 at 09:23 PM |
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A lof of people are fitting small hydrogen generators which feed a small amount into the air intake - mainly on the strength of some big claims by
ebay sellers and some forums.
Unless I'm missing something, I cant see how the small amount of electrical energy input used for the hydrolosis reaction can result in bigger
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| posted on June 25th, 2009 at 10:02 PM |
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Guaranteed to save you money on Petrol...
Easiest way to save on fuel....
Glue thumb tacks [drawing pins] onto Your accelerator..
naturally with the sharp bits sticking up....
then drive bare footed....
Now that Will Work and its NOT available on E-Bay...
YET..... lol
LEE
{I'm working on a kit - pins and glue all included.}
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| posted on August 16th, 2009 at 02:33 PM |
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rnEasiest way to save on fuel....rnrnGlue thumb tacks [drawing pins] onto Your accelerator..rnnaturally with the sharp bits sticking
up....rnrnthen drive bare footed....rnrnNow that Will Work and its NOT available on E-Bay...rnrnrnYET..... lolrnrnLEErnrnrn{I'm working on a kit - pins and glue all included.}
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that is the flippen hilarious!!!!!!!!!!
cheers for the laugh
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| posted on August 16th, 2009 at 05:49 PM |
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Don't drive. Easy. I make a tank last a month in the Beetle regularly.
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| posted on December 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 PM |
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There was an episode of mythbusters where they tested various of fuel saving devices at different speed on a dyno
the magnet did nothing
the high efficiency carby made the car less efficient
adding acetone to fuel, no improvement, if anything less
the water to hydrogen didn't work. although some said hydrogen was supposed to assist with normal combustion
they so tried cooking oil on a diesel motor which actually run
here's a wikipedia page refers to the show http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_saving_devices
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| posted on December 4th, 2009 at 10:37 AM |
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If You did find a major fuel saving device....
You would probably disappear overnight and never be seen again.... lol
[and it won't be aliens..lol]
LEE
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| posted on December 4th, 2009 at 12:35 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by jsheppard64
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they so tried cooking oil on a diesel motor which actually run
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The only problem is when the cooking oil is cold. There are people using diesel to warm the engine up then used cooking oil after that. It's simpler
than converting the oil to biodiesel!
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| posted on December 5th, 2009 at 10:39 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by mnsKmobi
| Quote: | Originally
posted by jsheppard64
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they so tried cooking oil on a diesel motor which actually run
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The only problem is when the cooking oil is cold. There are people using diesel to warm the engine up then used cooking oil after that. It's simpler
than converting the oil to biodiesel!
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there's also a long term damage too isn't there...
now if we can cut the floor opens and do the "Flintstones"
Yabada ba doo!
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| posted on May 2nd, 2010 at 11:24 AM |
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A lot of people don't know it but the diesel engine was originally designed to run on peanut oil. Used cooking oil is fine but needs to be filtered
several times with better filters each time and then there is no problem running on it. If it is not filtered there is too much gunk (technical
terminology) in it to get through the filter properly, and you will need to buy filters regularly. But it will not cause any damage or problems when
cleaned from filtering. My brother and I both have research it to some degree. He was working with it for his charity car i just bought a bug instead.
Now if Porche had done more with diesels we would all be leading the way. Imagine an air cooled biodiesel!
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| posted on July 10th, 2010 at 08:39 PM |
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Sorry to ruin this for you people but it is actually possible to run ur car on hydrogen, i ran my lawn mower motor on it, now im not saying its
efficiant which it isnt my hydrogen generator (which i made for about $30) needs about 15amps to get 1lpm of hydrogen and oxygen never the less it is
possible.
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| posted on August 3rd, 2010 at 12:03 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by baghall
Now if Porche had done more with diesels we would all be leading the way. Imagine an air cooled biodiesel!
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Though not really air cool stilll pretty cool vege car
http://www.greasecarmotorsports.com
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| posted on September 14th, 2010 at 11:09 PM |
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Very cool. Would be an interesting project to produce a vege powered turbo baja. Talk about different.
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| posted on January 29th, 2011 at 12:44 PM |
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The trouble with these gimmicks to "run your car on water (hydrogen)" is conservation of energy - you have to use more energy to produce the
hydrogen than you can get back out of burning it!
What amused me is DB&HVWs ran an article on Clyde Berg's device - a gizmo that was popular back in the 70's - it may be that it's extra
turbulence creates more efficient combustion under some conditions, but mostly it works by limiting how much power you can get out of the engine.
You could just lift your right foot a bit... There were a couple of devices based on that, too - one was a a progressive spring to discourage using
too much accelerator, and another was a bolt to stop the pedal going all the way to the floor!
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| posted on March 18th, 2011 at 09:59 AM |
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The reality is that within the next 20 years we will be running on clean fuels. General consumption eg. family cars will use either hydrogen (already
available overseas) or battery technology generated from solar technologies. Bio-fuels will generally be used for heavy equipment. Bio-fuels should
hopefully not be generated from food stocks. Engines without any major modifications will run on hydrogen and due to the lack of carbon also run a lot
cleaner with less wear and tear. Solar hydrogen kits and hydrogen cars have been available for sale in the US, its our government that for tax
(excise) reasons have not allowed in fact banned the import of these technologies.
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