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Full flow oil system
Gday all... just trying to get some more info on what people have in the way of oil filtration. I think the time has come for me to install some sort
of external filter. I am looking towards some sort of full flow system, what do people have? what do you suggest? where did you get it from? is it
good??
thanks for all your replies in advance!
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| posted on May 28th, 2003 at 09:45 PM |
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Hi, welcome to the forum.
I have a full flow oil filter, using a Berg pump cover and remote filter under the rear guard, this works fine.
I also have a filter pump on another engine I have, some people will tell you they heat the engine oil as the oil filter is in the hot air flow, I
have not found this a problem.
If you have your engine apart go with the berg cover and drill and tap your case for the return, if your engine is running and you don't want to
pull it down, get a filter pump, they can be installed with the engine in the car.
Hope this helps
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| posted on May 28th, 2003 at 11:06 PM |
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I don't have any experience with them, but based on oil temperature alone (I know there are other factors involved such as surface area etc), I
would have thought the warmer oil would flow through with less resistance, making the system more efficient. Yes? No?
Kruizin Kol
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| posted on May 28th, 2003 at 11:39 PM |
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I hope you're not talking about full flow for a type one. I just took a FF case to the tip 2 days ago!
And for those of you who are going to berrate me for doing that, I did post it for free about 3 months ago, so there!
Cheers
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| posted on May 28th, 2003 at 11:48 PM |
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why do you think it's time to do this?
is the engine running hot?
is it hotted up?
the answers to these q's may help you get better advice
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| posted on May 29th, 2003 at 02:19 AM |
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Moving to cairns shortly, have been in cooler climates previously... also just a logical progression as i slowly do more and more to the car this is
just one thing i have not got around to yet...
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| posted on May 29th, 2003 at 01:01 PM |
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the vw system works very well
remember it was first created for
army use in cold or hot climates
fit a oil temp guage !
if you constantly drive hard and you see oil temps up around 120 then maybe fit external cooler. an external filter will not help you run cooler . the
vw oil system works without a filter cause clean air goes in the engine make sure all your rubbers are in place
and change your oil regularly clean filter each time if you are worried
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| posted on May 29th, 2003 at 07:36 PM |
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The vw oil cooler does do well but they were designed in Germany for the german climate. Do you really think the germans expected to see their humble
people's car on American or Aussie roads in temps of 30+ degrees?. I think not. if you don't want to fit a cooler fine but think very
carefully about filters.
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| posted on May 29th, 2003 at 08:26 PM |
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the VW cooling system was adapted to wherever it was sold, from the deserts of africa in WWII to the freezing ice of antarctica. A properly setup and
sealed cooling system will keep the oil and heads/cylinders cool in pretty much any weather when sensibly driven.
A full flow filter is a great addition as it adds life to the engine, and gives u some sort of insurance against oil system failure due to crap being
in ur oil.
Make sure you use a good quality filter, as crap ones can blow on cold starts (thick oil = high pressure). A good brand is Mann, which is german.
Jon
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| posted on May 30th, 2003 at 12:23 AM |
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I agree with Dave. Oil pumps with integral screw-on filters work fine; I had one on my Beetle for more than 15 years (Scat-made pump). It did not heat
the oil at all. It required no external plumbing and lines to fit, and no drilling and tapping of the case. Very neat fit, and everything is up and
out of the way.
The disadvantage is that the filter sits on its side and doesn't filter as efficiently as one mounted upright. Still a lot better than no filter
at all though. The sideways mounting also makes oil changes messy. They take Z9-sized filters, but they are a tight fit. Smaller, less tall filters
are available with the same thread and sealing surface size, but not as tall.
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| posted on June 1st, 2003 at 01:29 PM |
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The other problem i know of with those integrated filters, otherwise i would fit one.... is that they dont fit with Extractors... if you know
differently please let me know...
Dan
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| posted on June 1st, 2003 at 11:00 PM |
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Mine fits with a Thunderbird extractor system.
But with some merged systems (that don't run heater boxes) the J pipes run closer to the case, that would be a problem with clearance
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