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 69satellite
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| posted on January 1st, 2011 at 11:25 PM |
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Subaru donor?
Im wanting to do the subaru swap in my bug. But for donors I'm having a real hard time find a car thats not an auto. So my question is can I use the
automatic car as a donor and source out a manual trans later? Or are the harness and ecm different? I know the auto won't work with the suby reverse
gear kit. But I found a good deal on a auto car that was wrecked.
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| posted on January 2nd, 2011 at 03:14 AM |
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an auto would as a rule be less thrashed, if its a good deal buy it , yes you will have to do some wiring changes on the loom for the manual but the
ecu ect will work.
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| posted on January 2nd, 2011 at 07:19 AM |
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Is it AWD?
auto AWD boxes fetch good money
It wont matter if the donor is auto, the engine and ECU are the same, just the ECU is wired different so it knows it's in an auto.
As seagull said autos make better donors
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| posted on January 2nd, 2011 at 09:36 AM |
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Awesome thats what I wanted to hear. I don't think its an awd, he didn't mention it being one and I haven't seen it in person yet. They just
wrecked it recently and are wanting to sell it. It got flipped but is suppose to still run and they only want $500 for it. So bewteen scrapping whats
left and selling off the auto trans and whatever few parts are still salvageable I'm hoping to make most my money back on it.
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| posted on January 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 AM |
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FWD auto boxes are worth nothing, only the AWD are, mine went in the bin, couldnt even give it away.
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| posted on January 2nd, 2011 at 12:06 PM |
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yeah I didn't think it would be worth much. But maybe some one well need one, before I get tired of tripping over it and scrap it.
But this is what the guy told me.
"My niece wrecked this car while i was out of town working. just talked to my sister she said the key wouldn't turn off or come out after the
wreck.Motor was running after the wreck until it ran out of gas i guess."
So I think I'm going to take some gas and a jumper box and see if I can't get it started. Or at the very less turn the motor over by hand to make
sure it didn't lock up. Anyone know what size socket I need to turn it over?
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| posted on January 2nd, 2011 at 04:18 PM |
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Remove the spark plugs first, then crank it over. stop it, replace the spark plugs then start it
or hydro lock = bang and a nice conrod will say hellow just behind the alternator 
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| posted on January 2nd, 2011 at 05:39 PM |
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You said that it got flipped in an earlier post.
If it was on it's roof and running I probably wouldn't buy it.
Just find out it it was on it's roof or if it flipped the whole way back onto it's wheels.
Engine running upside down for too long = me no likey
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| posted on January 2nd, 2011 at 08:08 PM |
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As above if the car has done some acrobatics the engine may be rooted but even if it is I wouldnt let that deter you.
If you can get it cheap as because of that you have everything there to make a conversion work, another engine is the easy part and it gives you the
option to go much much newer if you wanna go EJ20 from a imp, lib or forester or bigger if u wanna go EJ25.
Some of the early EJ25 are a plug and play with an EJ22 ECU
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| posted on January 3rd, 2011 at 12:16 AM |
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Im going to try and get it from here. waiting to here back and hoping it doesn't sell before I have a chance to go get it. And if the motor turns out
to be locked up, oh well. I was planning on freshing it up anyways. Hoping not though.
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| posted on January 3rd, 2011 at 03:26 AM |
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not worth the freshing up / cost & time , find another
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| posted on January 3rd, 2011 at 09:54 AM |
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I can't find deals on Subarus around here. $2k buys a car with well over 200k. So I'm goin to go get it Wednesday for $400. I can get atleast half
that back just by scrapping the car once I pull what I need. So I'm goin to go get it wednesday morning after work and then work on it thursday and
see what I got.
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| posted on January 3rd, 2011 at 10:25 AM |
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Ah so you are in the US, I was thinking that might have been the case by the american fenders on the bug in your avatar.
Subis are just alot more common on the roads here which is why it was suggested to just get another engine
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| posted on January 3rd, 2011 at 11:47 AM |
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Ah so you are in the US, I was thinking that might have been the case by the american fenders on the bug in your avatar.
Subis are just alot more common on the roads here which is why it was suggested to just get another engine
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Yeah I am. This is the best board I have found for vw and conversions, so that's why I joined.
I wish we had more subis over here. But everyone that owns one does until it has 300k miles or wrecks it.
So that leaves me with finding what I can. This one has 170k on it. So I'm hoping it didnt run try and stick together but only one way to find out.
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| posted on January 6th, 2011 at 07:24 PM |
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Well went and picked up up yesterday and will be working on it today to see if she spins over. Going to pull the plugs and see if I can't turn it
over by hand. If it does then I'm going turn it over by the starter by remote. But I got an issue, if it does spin over and feels fine. I don't have
the key, it apparently went missing when the car was sitting. So whats the easiest and cheapest way to bypass the ignition switch?
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| posted on January 6th, 2011 at 07:38 PM |
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Just pull the plug of the back of the ignition switch, find which wire has power to it then jump it onto the other ones till you find the one that
brings all the warning lights on.
then you can jump the starter solenoid wire to crank it over, just make sure its in park
 can tell Ive never hotwired a car
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| posted on January 8th, 2011 at 01:15 PM |
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K, will try tomorrow. Pulled the plugs today and they actually look decent and sprayed some oil down the cylinders. she spun over by hand with ease.
so may luck out after all. She had some oil in her still, dirty but just alittle past the low mark. So do this have a flip over sensor? i know newer
cars went to them but don't know much about subis.
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| posted on January 10th, 2011 at 11:20 AM |
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Well she runs. Took the colum cover off and just poped the cover off the igntion swithch and took the tumber and used a screwdriver to turn it.
Charged up the jump box. She cranked over after bout 15seconds. Not bad for a car thats been sitting 6 months. Got a tank of gas, wasn't even a 1qrt
low on oil and coolant was full. She is smoking but motor sounds good. Not coolant smells like oil. just hoping its crap in the pipes from being on
its roof. Goin run it some more tomorrow and see if it doesn't clear out. Thanks guys
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| posted on January 10th, 2011 at 02:56 PM |
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I dont think it would have had a mecury switch installed.
On another note , I purchased a Ls400 lexus ( V8 ) a few weeks ago from my old boss. it had been sitting for 4 years and never started, new battry and
20 seconds it started and ran on all 8 cyl.
Now I am driving VIP for $800.00 Au. He payed Au $87000.00 for it new LOL !
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| posted on March 22nd, 2011 at 10:12 AM |
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ok. just got the harness all pulled. Got all the dash and engine harness out. took me bout 4hrs. helps when you dont have a roof in the way. Only
question I got is do I need to have any of the harness that goes towards the back of the car? I just unhooked the wires right where they ran along the
bottom of the doors. Do I need any of that?
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| posted on March 22nd, 2011 at 05:35 PM |
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if you want to use the subaru fuel pump its handy to keep that wiring intact
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| posted on March 22nd, 2011 at 08:39 PM |
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I didn't bother, there's nothing engine related cept the fuel pump wiring.
You will have more than enough left over wire once the main loom is stripped to run cable for the pump.
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| posted on April 16th, 2011 at 04:54 PM |
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well finally got the subura motor pulled. harness pulled. and tank pulled and the car scraped. paid 400 for the car scraped it for 300. so I got 100
invensted so far, not to bad but was hoping to break even. No to decide on a trans. I still think Im learing mostly to the subi trans and getting the
reverse r&p kit for it.
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| posted on April 16th, 2011 at 06:00 PM |
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Is it an AWD box?
The kit doesnt work with the front wheel drive boxes.
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| posted on April 16th, 2011 at 06:22 PM |
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don't have a box. car was an auto and wasn't goini to use that.
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