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 Camo
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| posted on January 9th, 2011 at 05:28 PM |
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Ideas to add full steering lock, stops to early Beetle
Hi all,
I am after suggestions, photos or any advice re adding pump stops for full steering lock left and right. Due to the larger wheels, if I turn full
lock in either direction the inside rear of the front tyres touches the body down near the floor pan. I need to work out a way of adding a bump stop
to alleviate this problem. I could just not turn the steering wheel as far, but the engineer wouldn't except this method 
Note: This is a 61 Beetle with L/P front end.
Thanks, Kevin
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| posted on January 9th, 2011 at 06:21 PM |
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on our beetle they have adjustable steering stops welded on the front beam and the steering box Pittman arm stops against. I also think that Kombies
have them to, your have probably been cut off ???
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| posted on January 9th, 2011 at 07:18 PM |
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on our beetle they have adjustable steering stops welded on the front beam, yours have probably been cut off ???
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Ian, I know that you know a hell of a lot more than me about VW's but in this case I think you may be wrong. The steering box it self would come to
a full lock but there were no other forms of bump stops for the steering lock on the car when I bought it or on the narrowed beam I bought. I will
have to do a search of photos to see what you mean.
Thanks, Kevin
P.S. I have know to be wrong once this year already, so there could be scope for a 2nd time 
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| posted on January 9th, 2011 at 07:23 PM |
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Apparently the steering lock stops are a BJ beam only thing.
I don't think it would be too difficult to knock something similar up for a k&l beam tho... just need to steal the different pitman arm from a BJ
beam.
When (if?) it stops raining I'll go out to the shed and grab some pics of the BJ beam setup.
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| posted on January 9th, 2011 at 07:29 PM |
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O Mine may have been modified
my super bug have stops on the steering idler arm.
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| posted on January 9th, 2011 at 07:46 PM |
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Thanks Dave, but dont worry. I will do some photo research and see what they are like. Also to see if the pitman arm can be used on mine and what
else is required.
Kev
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Camo
Hi all,
I am after suggestions, photos or any advice re adding pump stops for full steering lock left and right. Due to the larger wheels, if I turn full
lock in either direction the inside rear of the front tyres touches the body down near the floor pan. I need to work out a way of adding a bump stop
to alleviate this problem. I could just not turn the steering wheel as far, but the engineer wouldn't except this method
Note: This is a 61 Beetle with L/P front end.
Thanks, Kevin
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Hi Kevin...
are You adding a steering damper???
the full lock stops are pieces of steel with a bolt in each one that adjusts for the maximum lock... ie.. tyre rubbing...
on My 68 beetle..
I'll take a pic tomorrow..
I have the fan shroud out at the moment... have a weeping hose connection... hose is perfect.. actually can't move it..
but the brass fitting has been weeping...
did you use a later steering shaft with the collapsible piece in it??
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| posted on January 9th, 2011 at 10:00 PM |
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The steering stop on a link pin beam is at the king pin where the front backing plate bolt is. Because it's old and gets quite some force applied due
to the design, the mating surfaces are often slightly pounded. To rectify this or in a case like yours, I'd use a longer front backing plate bolt so
it protrudes through the stub axle slightly further and becomes a new stop. It's tricky to get just right as very small increments of adjustments
makes a difference, but by putting a longer bolt in and grinding it down progressively does the trick. Be sure to replace with the correct grade of
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| posted on January 10th, 2011 at 03:25 PM |
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Matberry,
you are a genius, thanks heaps. I just had a look and I can see exactly what you mean. Because I put the disc brake caliper bracket on, the bolts
dont come through quite far enough. I will get a longer bolt and just grind it down to the appropriate length.
Cheers, Kev
Ian, we can all learn from this
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| posted on January 10th, 2011 at 03:56 PM |
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o yeah those aftermarket spindles don't have lock stop bumps, They just flat where the front bolt goes, why didn't you ask that .
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| posted on January 10th, 2011 at 04:31 PM |
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o yeah those aftermarket spindles don't have lock stop bumps, They just flat where the front bolt goes, why didn't you ask that .
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Sorry to correct you again Ian, but they are original VW spindles (stub axles) and not aftermarket. But nice try  Maybe you had better get Rose's advise before posting
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| posted on January 10th, 2011 at 04:44 PM |
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Rose must have left the computer on..... maybe she needs a child lockout on it ! 
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| posted on January 10th, 2011 at 05:59 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by ian.mezz
o yeah those aftermarket spindles don't have lock stop bumps, They just flat where the front bolt goes, why didn't you ask that .
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Sorry to correct you again Ian, but they are original VW spindles (stub axles) and not aftermarket. But nice try Maybe you had better get Rose's advise before posting
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OK just hurry up and bloody finish it :
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| posted on January 10th, 2011 at 06:01 PM |
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Rose must have left the computer on..... maybe she needs a child lockout on it !
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I like Menangler new avatar, His clevera then me.
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| posted on January 10th, 2011 at 09:16 PM |
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Glad it worked ok Kev.
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