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posted on March 13th, 2013 at 09:06 PM
Setrab remote oil cooler with fan?


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Has anybody any experience with Setrab oil coolers with fan?

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posted on March 13th, 2013 at 09:31 PM



Damo has one on his type 4 in his beetle. Hi quality product, very tight fit with the twin fan unit



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posted on March 13th, 2013 at 09:34 PM



Thanks Matt

I was thinking of a single unit mounted above/near the gearbox.

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posted on March 13th, 2013 at 09:36 PM



Hi greg

Setrab is good brand. How big is it?

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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 07:10 AM



Hi Steve

"Cooler and fan dimensions are 8 1/4' long, 6" wide, and 6" tall. The actual cooler is only 7" wide, it's 8 1/4" from the edge of mounting flange to edge of mounting flange. The cooler has 19 rows. " Here is the link ( http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Setrab-Single-Fan-Pack-Oil-Cooler-p/fp119m22i.htm ).

I mocked up a cardboard version of the cooler from Rocket Industries that we discussed when we were at Westie's but was having problems fitting it above/near the gearbox as it was pretty big. It looks as though the Setrab single unit is smaller and may fit better....I'll need to mock up a cardboard version for it as well to test it for fit.

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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 07:42 AM



I run a 10.5" square trucool on my karmann ghia and it is a tight fit, single fan, it is a good idea to put a scoop under the car and pay attention to the rotation of the fan , i have mine set up to push air through the cooler and the scoop supplies air in that direction, get the biggest cooler you can and do not forget to install a oil thermostat as well.
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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 08:23 AM



the dual fan version that Damo (deluxe66) fitted was around 16 x 8" with 2 fans. It was such a tight fit a carddboard mock-up would not give you a true indication. I agree with VWo60 that the largest possible with a thermostat is required. I just fitted an Empi 96 row with fan to my 2 litre type 1, it has early fan and no stock cooler and runs cool as because engine, cooling and oil systems are set up correctly.



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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 09:13 AM



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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 09:19 AM



when you fit a scoop under the car it is constantly changing the air over the gearbox, it made a good measurable difference to my set up, it apears to me that the air space on top of the gear box is heated by the exhaust and could do with a bit of help with the circulation.
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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 09:35 AM



Thanks mate

Can you post a photo of your scoop?

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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 12:19 PM



Hi

That twin fan Setrab is a big unit

Its probably not everyone's favourite solution but I like to run the cooler at the front of the car, easy on a 1302 or 1303 as there is plenty of space.

I have no internal cooler on my sons 1303 and plate oil cooler about 150 x 150 in the nose of the car, I'm going to fit a Mazda one in there in future.

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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 12:27 PM



Hi Stteve

The only place I can fit a remote cooler in this car is above the gearbox...

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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 12:29 PM



Hi Greg

Have look at CTs build thread on his oval, user name fullnoise, he fitted one in the front near the beam on his bug.

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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 12:56 PM



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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 03:09 PM



I fit mine above gearbox and was a mission. Mines a twin fan setrab. You can fit it above gearbox just takes time and good planning. Will try to get pics for you later today.



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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 04:02 PM



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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 05:34 PM



I won't be able to post any photos until i get home for work over seas in two weeks.
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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 05:35 PM



Cool. I can wait!

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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 06:37 PM



I have a ducted oil cooler up near gear box, never had the fan on and I drove the car to QLD few times in summer.



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I ordered the bracket with mine to mount it. I have a Torrens 5 bar kafer brace bar fitted also so install was hard with that in place. Basically i drilled out the rivets which held the left fan assy and welded some screws onto the mounting bracket. I then fitted the cooler with only the right side fan still attached from the drivers side of gearbox i then was able to reinstall the passenger side fan from the left back onto the welded on studs and secured them with washers and nylock nuts. With the cooler now in place i used right angle bracket to secure to cooler and then drilled two holes each side through luggage area and attached these with bolts. At the rear i used two cushion clamps to secure to the crossbar of the kafer bar setup. I then used phenix brand AN fittings and stainless braided lines. All up it was minimum 3 hours work, but the results were well worth it. I don't have the best pics for you but hopefully have givien you the general idea.

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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 06:49 PM



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No worries. The fan motor housings just missed touching the gearbox. Also use the Setrab electric thermo switch. Have fun a hoist helps. Don't bang your head and no swearing.




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posted on March 14th, 2013 at 07:26 PM



Hi Greg

If your using the engine oil as a temperature reference for the ECU you could turn the fans on via the ECU, much nicer.

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posted on March 15th, 2013 at 06:10 AM



Hi Steve

The ECU was using the oil temp for start up and I have purchased a new Temperature Sensor II ( http://www.findpart.org/part/bos-0280130012 ) and will connect that to the ECU as well near cylinder # 3.

My understanding is the the CB Performance EFI kit uses only a Cylinder Head Temp for start up and not the Oil Temp because of the excessive amount of time that the oil takes to warm up...

Either way, I'll have both connected to the ECU so that we can use either one.

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posted on March 15th, 2013 at 07:36 AM



I run one of these to control the fan, it has on and off points that you set and a alarm feature, works great, the trucool oil cooler with the single fan was not easy to fit but it leaves a bit more room than the cooler with the two fans.
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posted on March 15th, 2013 at 09:02 AM



Hi vw060

There is a company in Qld that also has a similar unit http://enginewatchdog.com/index.html 

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posted on March 15th, 2013 at 09:18 AM



Yes it does the same job but would not fit into the ghia and look out of place, the one i bought works great as well as giving you a acurate oil temp, i have the sender on the return oil line from the cooler, the cable supplied is long enoungh to fit into the ghia if i installed the box that came with it in the foot well under the carpet but the guy did say you can extend the cables withuot a problem.
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