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 pompom
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| posted on May 31st, 2013 at 04:57 AM |
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1300cc Historic Touring Car pics and specs
No probs Ben, here's some eye and brain candy...Cheers! ian
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British Historic Touring Car
Car Spec: 1965 swing axle Beetle, CSP disc brakes all round, 1285cc, 44 Webers, Engle FK10 cam, reworked stock heads with stock sized valves, cooling
by 12 inch electric fan and ram air pipes, approx 120-125bhp@ 8000rpm. Bears close ratio gearbox with a Quaife ATB diff (geared for a top speed of
180kph), Dunlop historic crossply tyres, weight around 740kg with driver. Front suspension: Stock beam, springs and rubber bushes, adjustable Formula
Vee anti-roll bar, 2.5" dropped spindles, Quantum double adjustable motorsport dampers. Rear suspension: Stock springs and rubber bushes, lowered 2
splines, custom made heavy duty adjustable Z-bar, Quantum double adjustable motorsport dampers.
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| posted on May 31st, 2013 at 05:59 AM |
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Thanks for sharing the info
Anything special about the dropped spindles (i.e. brand etc.) ?
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| posted on May 31st, 2013 at 09:26 AM |
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What sort of exhaust are you running Ian?
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| posted on May 31st, 2013 at 09:35 AM |
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Awesome!Thanks for that Ian
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| posted on May 31st, 2013 at 09:58 AM |
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My kinda car.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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pompom
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| posted on May 31st, 2013 at 09:58 AM |
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| Quote: | Anything special
about the dropped spindles (i.e. brand etc.) ?
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Nopey!...Just bogo EMPI drops.
Added a tiny bit of negative camber and thats about it (historic tyres don't like too much camber)
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| posted on May 31st, 2013 at 10:08 AM |
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| Quote: | What sort of
exhaust are you running Ian?
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Currently it's just a small diameter merged drag system with a tuck under silencer. The original bugpack silencer has been replaced with the type of
thing you would normally see on a Formula Vee.
Future plans are to mount the electric cooling fan under the car to free up the engine bay, then have a custom 'teepee' style merged system above
the engine to make the exhaust as short as possible (the higher the rpms-the shorter the exhaust)...that'll be a wild looking engine!
Will have to shroud the carbs due to the heat for that one.
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| posted on May 31st, 2013 at 04:57 PM |
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great footage can you show us some engine pics?
EVERLAST CONCRETE TANKS
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| posted on May 31st, 2013 at 05:46 PM |
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Thanks for sharing info
Much appreciated
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| posted on June 1st, 2013 at 07:03 AM |
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Here's the motor as it stands...Stock oil cooler has been removed and replaced with a pair of external coolers either side of the gearbox.
lightweight race alternator, 2250cfm 12" electric fan (the back of the aluminium fan shroud is V-shaped to split the air to each side of the engine
and to stop the air from cavitating), plus four 3" hoses feeding cool air from under the car, straight on to the heads!
Originally I had the stock cooling system combined with a single external oil cooler...With the electric fan/ram air combo (that everyone said
wouldn't work  ) the oil temperature is now 10 degrees
cooler.
The alternator and electric fan use around 1.5bhp, but I can live with that as the electric fan saves over 20bhp over the stock VW fan at the
7500-8000rpm the engine runs at
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| posted on June 4th, 2013 at 03:49 PM |
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| posted on June 4th, 2013 at 05:18 PM |
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Love it
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| posted on June 8th, 2013 at 03:04 PM |
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That electric fan mod is huge.
Good one!
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| posted on June 11th, 2013 at 08:43 PM |
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Just a few queries;
I read some time back your front end is balljoint. Is that setup still the same?
What sort of bottom end is the motor running? counter weighted crank and carillos? Surely the pistons are little special too?
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| posted on June 11th, 2013 at 09:03 PM |
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Neato, very likeable mods too
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| posted on June 11th, 2013 at 10:53 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by pete wood
Just a few queries;
I read some time back your front end is balljoint. Is that setup still the same?
What sort of bottom end is the motor running? counter weighted crank and carillos? Surely the pistons are little special too?
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I think Ian is still running mahles...
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| posted on June 12th, 2013 at 07:22 AM |
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From memory it is a balanced crank with carillo rods; mahle barrels and pistons, with a FK10 cam with some nice head porting. It was built by a UK
formula vee guru so it's put together right
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| posted on June 12th, 2013 at 01:21 PM |
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Awesome car!!
You say the oil temperature dropped 10 deg, did you also measure cylinder head temperature before and after?
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| posted on June 14th, 2013 at 07:38 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by pete wood
Just a few queries;
I read some time back your front end is balljoint. Is that setup still the same?
What sort of bottom end is the motor running? counter weighted crank and carillos? Surely the pistons are little special too?
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Hi
The front beam is simply a stock balljoint beam with stock rubber bushes...nothin fancy needed
The internals are 69mm counterweight crank, Engle FK10 Cam, carillo rods and stock 77mm Mahle pistons. The tops of the pistons have been notched to
give clearance to the valves due to the large valve lift and the top edge of the pistons have been angled (domed) to reduce compression and create
more turbulence. Finally as the stock size exhaust valves are very close to the edges of the barrels, the barrel near the valve has been machined to
provide a bit more flow around that part of the valve.
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| posted on June 14th, 2013 at 07:46 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Gracey
Awesome car!!
You say the oil temperature dropped 10 deg, did you also measure cylinder head temperature before and after?
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Unfortunately we never got as far a fitting a sender in the head, so the head temps are a mystery.
At the last rebuilt the engine company said that the engine looked like new, so I guess all is well.
I've bought a laser temperature meter which we can point at various parts of the engine as soon as I come off track. We'll also use this on the
tyres, brakes and twin oil coolers and make changes as necessary.
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| posted on June 14th, 2013 at 08:24 AM |
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Great to see what you are doing there, pompom.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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