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 pete wood
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| posted on April 28th, 2004 at 04:31 PM |
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turboed standard 1600
my bro has a standard baykombi 1600 (with alternater) to go in his split panel. I think the motor is a 75 or something. I was thinking a turbo and
some efi would make it alot more fun to drive.
Any ideas about the compression on this motor?
Also, what turbo, boost setting, exhaust (extractors), ignition (distributor) and computer would be the go to keep the engine reliable but fun?
I was thinking of a 4500rpm redline to keep it safe.
He hasn't got much cash so budget ideas would be good too.
And no carbies please, an intercooler will need to go on at some point.
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| posted on April 28th, 2004 at 05:35 PM |
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turbo 1600
dude your asking a lot my freinds turbo 1600 is a very budget street car and it eats cash like you wouldn't belive. It'sa draw thru to4 45 dellorto
about 8.1 comp 009 with electronic conversion 1 043 head and 1 311 head 35.5 intake std exhaust D ported small non turbo cam sig erson 1.4 rockers we
run 15lb of boost and about a 30 hp nitrous kit(it's home made) on street tyres it ran 13.34@ 100mph so it's making roughly 160 rear wheel hp.We
should be at nambucca with the motor in a country buggy tha belongs at the tip or the brisbane jamboree.Best of luck |
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| posted on April 28th, 2004 at 05:45 PM |
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turbo 1600
I am thinking of standard internals. surely the comp ratio is only around 8:1 to begin with. perfect for forced induction. I don't want ridiculous
power, just a nice torque curve and a bit of a push in the back. surely the motor could handle that as long as it is tuned well.
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| posted on April 28th, 2004 at 05:49 PM |
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try this link as I asked the same question not long ago.
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=22143#pid166768
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pete wood
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| posted on April 28th, 2004 at 06:18 PM |
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to Andy42,
thanx for the answer on the compression ratio 
so did you end turboing the engine afterall?
[Edited on 28-4-2004 by pete wood]
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| posted on April 28th, 2004 at 06:44 PM |
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I have not decided if I will turbo it or not yet. I had a turbo manx for a short while and it went like a shower of shit. And it only had a holden
stromberg carby on it. But maybe i will get bored and just bolt one on and see how it goes
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pete wood
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| posted on April 28th, 2004 at 06:55 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Andy42
it went like a shower of shit.
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I take that to mean it went hard.
Let me know if you do just bolt it on.
I would love to know how it goes.
what sort of turbo have you got?
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| posted on April 28th, 2004 at 06:59 PM |
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i have a T04 so it may be a bit big for it I was looking at prices today
of some of the ones from the silvias etc and they are cheap as and should be plenty big enough. And yeh it went fast well for a vw motor anyway:vader
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| posted on April 29th, 2004 at 01:33 PM |
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Just my two cents, if you are looking at doing it on the cheep, I have used a 1 3/4 inch SU carb (cheep from any wreckker) on a 12A rotary (in a
series 1 rx7), the carb (according to one of the english turbo guide books) flows enough air/fuel for 180hp in a drw-thru setup, and in practice it
worked well.
We had no probs on the dyno, just needed to file the needle to get the a/f ratio right. No need for an intercooler (vaporisation of the fuel keeps
things cool), can add water injection easily (I did) if you realy get serious. |
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| posted on April 29th, 2004 at 02:36 PM |
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I have seen a SU sidedraught on a 1600single port, it was in a trike running 12 second 1/4s. Not sure of the HP but a nice simple combo that works
well.
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| posted on April 29th, 2004 at 02:45 PM |
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Just be careful with which turbo you run - they need to have the right type of shaft seal in them, else you run the risk of fuel getting into the
turbo oil and stuffing up your bearings.
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| posted on April 29th, 2004 at 05:45 PM |
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turbo 1600
thanx for the tips guys, but I really want to use efi.
It makes precise tuning far easier and allows less chance for detonation.
detonation = very bad :puke
If anyone can think laterally about a cheap efi set up it would be good.
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| posted on April 29th, 2004 at 05:52 PM |
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Pete
For cheap efi check out the enormous thread Ratty started, that he still adds to every once and a while:
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=15209
Turbo idea sounds good
Cheers
Jeremy
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| posted on May 19th, 2004 at 10:59 PM |
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Hey Pete,
Just read this thread from the top and noticed that there wasn't realy any answers to your comment that "I don't want ridiculous power, just a nice
torque curve ".
Well I was talking to a local speed shop owner and the idea of developing a low reving torquey engine was discussed. Top end HP not being the
goal...
So.. forget about transplanting a ca18 nissan t25 or mitsubishi td04 turbo from petrol engine car. You'd end up with a engine that wouldn't start
making boost till 2500 RPM, and not hit full boost till abut 3400, and then you'll be wanting to rev it to 6.
Instead get a turbo from a 2-2.5lt diesel. Ideally look for a VNT turbo but otherwise, and most importantly, go for a small turbo. A 0.3-0.4 exhaust
AR, and a 0.45 compressor.
Keep in mind that most diesel engines start making boost aroung 1000 rpm, so torque is going to be great from say 1500 to 4000 RPM. It would drive as
though you had a 2.4lt engine, with no lag.
As for EFI, i'm afraid there's no such thing as cheap. From my experiences, cheap is what is tried three times without success before doing it the
right way. Don't be cheap on your efi, or you just pay for it later.
Best to get something that people in your area know how to tune(and support for when you have problems, and you will!). Whether that be motec,
haltech, microtech, autronic or wolf. All can produce great results if the tuner knows what they are doing. People you will talk to will tell you one
is better than another, but it all just comes down to shop product preference and what training the tuner has been exposed to.
Good luck, turbo vw's are a blast to drive!
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| posted on May 20th, 2004 at 12:09 AM |
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Ian, thats such a good point, a diesel turbo would be perfect for low down power... I'm going to start another thread now so as not to hijack this
one with whats running through my head atm.
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| posted on May 20th, 2004 at 06:47 AM |
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Go here and have a looksi. The systems work OK but a better ECU and good dyno time would make a big difference.
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=286
tssnq.com.au
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| posted on May 20th, 2004 at 06:53 AM |
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Go here and have a looksi. The systems work OK but a better ECU and good dyno time would make a big difference.
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=286
tssnq.com.au
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| posted on May 20th, 2004 at 09:37 AM |
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I have a kit that Shimo of Hellbug developed. It uses the Weber DMTT carby, an IHI turbo off an Isuzu Diesel truck, custom exhaust system and remapped
dizzy. Turbo sits underneath the rear parcel tray next to the gearbox. Good for 14.2 secs with 1835cc B+P's and stock internals as it only revs to
4500rpm. Shimo told me it gives the car the torque of a V8.
Steve
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| posted on May 20th, 2004 at 10:24 AM |
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so are ya gunna sell it ???:thumb:thumb
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| posted on May 20th, 2004 at 10:59 AM |
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Nope its not for sale anymore as I am putting it in my Cabrio. It is worth about $2500 but I think if you hunted down the parts you could replicate it
pretty easy. There was a DMTT on here not so long ago for $400 I think.
Cheers
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| posted on May 20th, 2004 at 11:34 AM |
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Hmmm....might source some parts...don't need a carby as i have fuel injection happening on my "project"
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| posted on May 20th, 2004 at 10:36 PM |
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A bit more info for the EFI debate....
http://members.shaw.ca/sharkeysgarage/EFI.html
Its all about air cooled VW EFI and turbo systems...
Might be useful in helping make some usefull decisions. James, the guy who wrote the review (and the website) realy knows his stuff, and is somewhat
of a guru as far as turbo's vw's go. Check out his custom intake manifild system. In one word "Awesome".
Cheers,
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