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| posted on February 5th, 2007 at 04:17 PM |
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is a '74 beetle any good for racing ?
hey guys im looking at getting a '74 cheap and i wanna put my 2276 that ive got in bits into it . is there any advantage over my '68 that ive got .
the '74 has drum fronts and rear which will be changed to discs and t3 rear drums. is the '74 better in any way ? i know its heavier
cheers brenton
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| posted on February 5th, 2007 at 04:28 PM |
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Is it s 74 super? drums sounds like its a 74 std with swinger rear?
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
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| posted on February 5th, 2007 at 04:32 PM |
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No
Its got a Strut front end :puke stick with the torsion bars Front ends LOL
Mate there all good to race if you have the chance Go for it
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| posted on February 5th, 2007 at 04:36 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by vw54
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Its got a Strut front end :puke stick with the torsion bars Front ends LOL
Mate there all good to race if you have the chance Go for it
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If it is a 1974 Aussie spec car with drums, it will more than likely be a 1300 twin-port. No advantage over a 1968 model for racing, that I can think
of... Same (swing axle)suspension, although it could be argued the gearbox is a) stronger and b) has slightly lower gearing
If it is a Super, it will have a curved windscreen...?
Therefore different suspension - trailing arm rear and strut front - and more overall mass
And yeah they're all good to race!!
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| posted on February 5th, 2007 at 05:16 PM |
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hey guys sorry i forgot to mention it was a std , so the gear box is stronger ? , how much power can they handle is your care full , im building a
2276 i herd around 150 is the max if you drive really carefull ?
cheers brenton
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| posted on February 5th, 2007 at 09:06 PM |
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matey, 'race' and 'drive carefully' don't exist in the same sentnce
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| posted on February 6th, 2007 at 09:25 AM |
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i want the car to handle well and then once i get some more dollars new gbox to handle the power. thats what i meant . so i would have to drive
carefully on the old gearbox till i can really get on it with a stronger gearbox and axles .
cheers brenton
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| posted on February 6th, 2007 at 09:28 AM |
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really i want to know if i should fix up a '74 im getting into a race and keep my '68 low or should i just fix and sell the '74 ? i was thinking it
wouldnt matter if i cut the rear to tie the horns in etc . wheres i dont really want to do that to my 68
cheers brenton
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| posted on February 6th, 2007 at 05:33 PM |
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Um, no-one but you can answer that question
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| posted on February 6th, 2007 at 05:38 PM |
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alrite so the conclusion is that the '74 is similar to a '68 except it has a alt and is heavier. but stronger and shorter gearbox.
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| posted on February 6th, 2007 at 05:48 PM |
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If your going to go Racing seriously i would be over hauling the gearbox especially if its been around the clock a few times .
The front discs wont be too hard to change to a later model theres a little more work in changing the rears
Good luck let us know how the racing goes
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| posted on February 14th, 2007 at 08:29 PM |
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hey man any beetle is good for racing, but which model is personal preference.
Me ive owned and driven the torsion bugs and raced one at a street sprint and just recently bought a 75 l bug and for me id preferr throwing around
the l-bug.
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| posted on February 14th, 2007 at 08:51 PM |
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More work required to get an L to handle, plus they're heavier
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| posted on February 14th, 2007 at 09:01 PM |
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Hi
Torsion bars front end cars are OK for the sort of racing where you don't need suspension, like hill climbs or drags where you just need the front
end to rare up to transfer weight, but anything that requires high speed finesse, go struts.
If your talking about supers being heavier, I've done jobbies that weigh more than the difference in weight
Steve
[ Edited on 14-2-2007 by 1303Steve ]
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| posted on February 14th, 2007 at 09:05 PM |
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Don't need suspension in hillclimbs WTF...............I think you need to race in a hillclimb !!!!
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| posted on February 14th, 2007 at 09:11 PM |
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only stirring C..T.., look who bit
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| posted on February 14th, 2007 at 09:15 PM |
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I'd love to see a 90kg terd!
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| posted on February 14th, 2007 at 09:16 PM |
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got a picture of Dave?
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Craig Torrens
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| posted on February 15th, 2007 at 06:39 AM |
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hehehehhe
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| posted on February 15th, 2007 at 12:55 PM |
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surely seeings as supers have struts/irs they would handle that little bit better??
"what kinda creator would make a race of people
and make em act a certain way or else He deems 'em evil?
HOW can You give a living being the freedom to breathe
and then lead em into a sea of decievers who greet em, see!"
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| posted on February 15th, 2007 at 05:09 PM |
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yeah, kinda, sorta, but it's more difficult to get appropriate settings into the front end
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| posted on February 21st, 2007 at 02:11 PM |
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Brenton, did you get any further in thoughts on '74 L-bug vs Ball Joint fronted beetle?
Brutus has ball-joint front & 4-joint rear, but that was a choice made many years ago, and it was specifically bought to get that set-up. At that
time, prevailing opinions were against Struts for track work (they couldn't readily be lowererd/ stiffened etc. then) but times have changed
obviously!
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Sorry just re-read & see it is a standard '74, suppose it is a 1300 with swing axle rear. If so both your cars have the same suspension & brake
set-up - so n ot much to choose, just pick the 'less nice' car for racing! But, better to sell one & get a better type for racing? eg S or L bug if
you like struts, or semi-auto or '76 if you prefer front beam. EITHER way I'd go for a 4-joint rear unless you're only doing drags. I'm not sure
if it's worth changing bakes for drags or hillclimbs. (Do discs really weigh much less anyway?) If you're doing longer/sprints could be a good
idea.
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| posted on February 21st, 2007 at 02:25 PM |
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hey I am only 83 Kgs not a F A T as you boys LOL
And when was the last time Eileen let you on the track steve
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