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 Joel
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 04:41 PM |
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joining the darkside....correction Joined
after much umming and arring i think ive finnaly come around
a local is is parting out a GX Liberty and i can get all the parts i need from it for a very good price
aside from the obvious parts like engine, loom, and ECU what other parts should i be grabbing
i notice most get the dash cluster and Ignition barrel
also being an old nannas car its auto im guessing this makes no differnce as the flywheel is getting replaced??
is there anything differnt about the ECU or engine cos of this?
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 05:41 PM |
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This is a growing trend... I remember 6 years ago I couldn't find any information about doing a coversion. Life is certainly easier these days I'd
suggest...
Reub
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 06:03 PM |
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youll love the dark side.
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 06:11 PM |
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aside from the cookies they have??
ground clearance is another of my main concerns
i know the shortend sump scene is improving all the time but with the downward facing exhaust ports etc and how low my bug is im just wondering how
bad its gonna be
at present my stock vw sump plate is about 130mm off the black stuff and i know EJs sit lower than a vw motor
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 06:19 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Joel
aside from the cookies they have??
ground clearance is another of my main concerns
i know the shortend sump scene is improving all the time but with the downward facing exhaust ports etc and how low my bug is im just wondering how
bad its gonna be
at present my stock vw sump plate is about 130mm off the black stuff and i know EJs sit lower than a vw motor
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stock sumps are cheap just dont boost on uneven roads , I have hit mine three times chaning into second on boost not leaking yet and it hits hard my sump is 120mm off the road
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 06:40 PM |
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Ian , Its a GX liberty EJ22 unless its had a turbo conversion 
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 07:10 PM |
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Are you gunna put the supercharger on it?
You could also grab the fuel pump if you wanted to make a surge pot or modify your tank to use the suby in tank pump.
Flicking through my conversion diary might give you some ideas. I really should update it ;
http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/linktoV6.htm
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 07:23 PM |
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no turbo....yet
presently just a nanna spec auto EJ22
Wes, i have got a spare SC14 blower under the house but i'd rather turbo it
ive already got an 8mm main fuel line i ran for my old turbo setup but i left the original 6mm as the return but im betting that would need replacing
with bigger
a simple surge tank like you run would do the job
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 07:32 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Joel
no turbo....yet
presently just a nanna spec auto EJ22
Wes, i have got a spare SC14 blower under the house
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Well put a Turbo on it , Dont cut your car up if its not Turbo
I dont think your joining the darkside. I think your just lerking in the shadows
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 09:15 PM |
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Ah stop it Ian, the dark side is anything that isn't purist pansy pants VW aircooled, and you will love it Joel. The EJ22 is 145hp DEAD STOCK. By the
time you get an exhaust and an aftermarket filter on it, it'll be 150hp. That's around 50 more than you already have and much smoother. The yanks
are fitting EJ22s to home built planes over EA82Ts. The Ej22 is smoother, more reliable and has more power.
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 09:21 PM |
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No problems being auto as you say you'll be replacing the flywheel, not much different with the wiring, the all the auto wires to the auto simply get
chopped out, and just need to bridge a few wires. If you want to retrofit the dash cluster and ignition barrel by all means, but not totally
necessary, it would be wise though to have a temp gauage and engine light.
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 09:23 PM |
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what year Joel? Some you need the barrel ignition etc for anti theft, lock etc - immobilisers if there is one.
there is a guy up queensland way to send the loom too, really good price, you'll get it back as plug n play with instructions.
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 09:43 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by pete wood
..... the dark side is anything that isn't purist pansy pants VW aircooled
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Is that so?
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 10:05 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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..... pansy pants VW aircooled
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This guy hasn't been in the right aircooled vw's.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 10:31 PM |
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Hi Joel
The EJ22 is a good choice, not too much cutting needed. The SC12 or 14 would just fit so nice on there, you already have correct drive for it, just
grab an intercooler from a WRX and of you go.
You might be able to use the radiator from this car as well.
The right air cooled VWs? Is that the type that cost thousands to build and need regular pampering?
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 10:36 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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The right air cooled VWs? Is that the type that cost thousands to build and need regular pampering?
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Sometimes thats true, but I LOVE a fast air cooled flat four.
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| posted on March 12th, 2009 at 10:43 PM |
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Hi Matt
Its like hitting your head against a brick wall, it feels good when you stop.
Steve
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| posted on March 13th, 2009 at 12:05 AM |
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I just fished a EJ 22 turbo motor for my mate. Its going to be a wild ride , mostly side ways I am thinking as I aso had a LSD fitted
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| posted on March 13th, 2009 at 05:21 AM |
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Hi Matt
Its like hitting your head against a brick wall, it feels good when you stop.
Steve
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| posted on March 13th, 2009 at 06:40 AM |
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joel, good write up here of EJ22 into beetle
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=35720
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| posted on March 13th, 2009 at 06:50 AM |
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You putting this in your current car Joel?
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| posted on March 13th, 2009 at 01:10 PM |
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cheers for the link Rob,
Mick, yep its going in my Lbug
i seem to be in the same boat as you were now
i have a 4500km old 1776 i now have to sell and the half dozen or so 1600s under the house should help boost this project financially abit
i've wanted to do this conversion for a good 10 or so years now since i saw the first one done back in the 90s
i just didnt have the heart to cut up my Lbug cos its never been pranged, rusted or bogged and was completley original and every mod ive done can be
easily reversed
but ive come to realise its only sheet metal that can be replaced
a good mate of mine is one of the most talented body blokes ive ever met, ive watched him do some extraordiary work on some splitties hes doing up at
the moment including replacing the entire bottom 8" of one them
the reason i bought my old black rotary beetle was to do an easy swap to EJ power as it was already cut up and BJ/IRS but i rarely drive one toy VW
let alone 2
i havent fully committed myself yet but the with the more and more people that do this conversion the easier its becoming which is making the decision
easier
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| posted on March 13th, 2009 at 02:39 PM |
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is everyone running the stock cat?
or can it be done away with cos its in such an old vehicle?
im guessing the ECU wont be happy with out it without some bypass for the sensor
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| posted on March 13th, 2009 at 02:57 PM |
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you don't wanna know what i bought...
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| posted on March 13th, 2009 at 03:16 PM |
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you do make a good point Jak
i turned down a 96 WRX as my daily driver cos i was worried i'd write myself off being a Larry lead foot with that much power
but a bug with that sorta balls would be a blast
i'm sure you know your self everyone if you pass someone in a bug thats it they just have to pass you back no matter what it takes.....
would be fun to really mess with the STI and skyline boy racers
at present i keep hold them thro the windeys but once u get on the straights they leave me for dead
Ian keeps teasing me with his sleeper clown bug and the thought of turboing a EJ22 might be a happy compromise
a bloke on volkswap has taken an EJ20T block and fitted SOHC heads as it fits better and he claims better bottom end
will wait and see as im just in negotiations with the owner of the liberty at the moment but if it falls thro i may be on the hunt for WRX half cut
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| posted on March 13th, 2009 at 03:23 PM |
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what about an STI half cut?
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| posted on March 13th, 2009 at 03:28 PM |
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i wanna drive my bug not fly it
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| posted on March 13th, 2009 at 03:28 PM |
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Just hand your licence in now Mick
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| posted on March 13th, 2009 at 03:39 PM |
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i know
it was a matter of a later model, price seemed good, didnt really want STI - though 1303 Steve has a brand new STI - might find out its got no bottom
end, but you buy from a wrecker and you may get a wreck.
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| posted on March 13th, 2009 at 04:23 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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i know
it was a matter of a later model, price seemed good, didnt really want STI - though 1303 Steve has a brand new STI - might find out its got no bottom
end, but you buy from a wrecker and you may get a wreck.
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