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 vwombat
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| posted on April 16th, 2009 at 06:10 PM |
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These are getting rare...!
Does anyone else get aggressive when reading some twit writing AGAIN that "these are getting rare" when talking about Kombi's on Ebay??? I mean,
there's usually never less than about 6 on Ebay at a time..! Do people think that this is going to spurn people into a buying frenzy?    
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| posted on April 16th, 2009 at 06:43 PM |
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Mitsubishi Colts are getting rare! A Daewoo Espero is rare.
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| posted on April 16th, 2009 at 06:57 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by helbus
A Daewoo Espero is rare.
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Cool, I'll tell the bloke at work that he should list his on ebay
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| posted on April 16th, 2009 at 07:06 PM |
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old kombi drivers are getting rare well the ones with sight are
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| posted on April 16th, 2009 at 07:07 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by helbus
Mitsubishi Colts are getting rare! A Daewoo Espero is rare.
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thank goodnes for that,I wish some other s####boxes would become rarer
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| posted on April 16th, 2009 at 08:08 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by helbus
Mitsubishi Colts are getting rare!
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what u talking about theyre ultra rare collectors items......
the only ones that havent gone to wreckers are the grandmas that have yet to tick over 30,000k and get their first rebuild
usually identified by the large smoke screen following them down the road
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| posted on April 16th, 2009 at 08:17 PM |
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i saw a Honda Zot on the road the other day
Dunno about rare - just uber cool!
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| posted on April 16th, 2009 at 09:09 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by vwombat
Does anyone else get aggressive when reading some twit writing AGAIN that "these are getting rare" when talking about Kombi's on Ebay??? I mean,
there's usually never less than about 6 on Ebay at a time..! Do people think that this is going to spurn people into a buying frenzy?
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just let me put my chaps on and get my hobby horse out, cos this really sticks in my craw... especially with respect to VWs.
...most common car in the world...wanna call em rare...
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| posted on April 16th, 2009 at 09:22 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by helbus
A Daewoo Espero is rare.
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GOOD!!!!! I hope they get more rare.... actually, I hope they all spontaniously combust and cease to exist. Terrible car, TERRIBLE!! GAH!!!
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| posted on April 16th, 2009 at 10:34 PM |
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posted by Bizarre
i saw a Honda Zot on the road the other day
Dunno about rare - just uber cool!
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an over sexed lawn mower more like it..
now trabants are cool..
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| posted on April 16th, 2009 at 10:56 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Mitsubishi Colts are getting rare! A Daewoo Espero is rare.
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Well Mitsubishi Colts are getting old too...
especially the two gear stick models...
there is a local Espero in great condition , I really like that model... it looks great IMHO... and I haven't seen too many around...
A local had a honda Z car many years ago...
was probably the original owner...
He lived about 5 kms from town, so it didn't go far...
Remember that Honda only started making cars recently - compared to other makers... and owned by Mr Honda himself... although He has passed away
since..
A Honda Z with an S800 engine would have been fun driving..
a car that sounds like a motor bike
or like a formula one engine is rare... ... lol
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| posted on April 17th, 2009 at 07:25 PM |
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Its all relative. compared to X, Z is rare.
I dont think Esperos are rare at all. They are everywhere. Not like the trusty colt... which I learnt to drive in.
I'm wishing ovals were heaps rare, but you could find oval parts at any garage sale.
I am wishing BF falcons were rare... even extinct in my garage, the friggin bonnet release came of in my hand tonight!
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| posted on April 17th, 2009 at 07:50 PM |
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Colonel mustard I agree wholehearedly!Perhaps a few Kia's,Daewoos and the list goes on,a few years agoI would have included morris Marina's and
p76's but time has cured those.
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| posted on April 17th, 2009 at 09:32 PM |
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Try and buy a Subaru SVX!
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Oh No.... Not the Marina......lol
Not the Aussie MORRIS Marina.... lol
Morris 1500 Front Wheel Drive
Morris 1500S " " "
even the morris 1100....
and the AUSTIN 1800... saw a couple last week...
about 100kms apart.... lol
and the Rare Leyland P76.... and the Force 7 Leyland..
Pommy cars don't seem to last in Australia...
I don't think it was a rust problem either??
Ford Cortinas - and the Chrysler CENTURA...
what about the Nissan/Ford cars made in Australia
made in the 80s..??
No parts are available for these twins....
LEE
PS: I didn't really like any of those cars... lol
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| posted on April 18th, 2009 at 11:03 AM |
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I have a friend who loves "the P". They just had really bad build quality. Once you pull them apart and put them back together properly they are
great. so he says.
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| posted on April 18th, 2009 at 11:49 AM |
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there are so many cars i hate... i probably shouldnt get started.
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| posted on April 18th, 2009 at 12:34 PM |
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a mate of mine has a morris 1100, its a pretty cool car, hydrolastic syspension, and i know a girl who has a mitsubishi colt that you could call
immaculate its amazing the interior is perfect, wonder if its worth anything now that they are getting rare
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| posted on April 18th, 2009 at 05:58 PM |
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Thanks for reminding me Lee, the chrysler centura. What a car!,I still have a new set of hydraulic lifters somewhere for one of theses s##that I got
stuck with with.If anyone is interested give me a call and I'll see if I can find them.
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| posted on April 18th, 2009 at 08:18 PM |
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Ah the Chrysler Centura - it was actually a French Simca, with parts imported from France including the 1.8 and 2.0-litre engines. Chrysler bolted
them together in Adelaide, and shoehorned the 4.0-litre '245' hemi six into it. Result - diabolical handling. The quality control was short on both
quality, and control. It was cumbersome, thirsty, choppy, slow and had a plethora of assembly faults. Assembly lasted only 30 months before it was
axed.
This info comes from the book 'Lemon!', written by Australian motoring journalist Tony Davis. Well worth finding. It lists several dozen cars that
are awful for any number of reasons - such as a bad idea done ordinarily (Volvo 760), an ordinary idea done badly (Triumph Stag), a good car badly
built (Alfasud), a bad car built well (Lagonda), or any other combination in between.
Some of the 'memorable' lemons include the Lightburn Zeta, De Lorean, HDT Director, Leyland P76, Nissan Pulsar EXA, Morris Marina, Ford Capri (soft
top), Nissan Pintara, Lada Samara, Triumph TR7, Valiant VH Hardtop, FSM Niki, NSU Ro80, Datsun 120Y, Subaru Vortex, Mazda Roadpacer, Austin Allegro,
Honda S600 and Datsun 200B. It also mentions some interesting Japanese cars like the Daihatsu Naked, and the Subaru Touring Bruce.
Hmm, they are ALL rare.
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| posted on April 18th, 2009 at 08:24 PM |
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Phil, is there anything in the past that you don't know about?
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| posted on April 18th, 2009 at 08:29 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Phil74Camper
Some of the 'memorable' lemons include the Lightburn Zeta, De Lorean, HDT Director, Leyland P76, Nissan Pulsar EXA, Morris Marina,
Ford Capri (soft top), Nissan Pintara, Lada Samara, Triumph TR7, Valiant VH Hardtop, FSM Niki, NSU Ro80, Datsun 120Y, Subaru Vortex,
Mazda Roadpacer, Austin Allegro, Honda S600 and Datsun 200B. It also mentions some interesting Japanese cars like the Daihatsu Naked,
and the Subaru Touring Bruce.
Hmm, they are ALL rare.
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Hey... some of those are good cars....
and some were just crap... what the heck was the point of the TR7?? nothing.. to get smashed on mythbusters, thats what
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| posted on April 18th, 2009 at 08:29 PM |
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My favourite primary school teacher, Mr Grant (6th class 1975), always said that if you didn't know something when asked, you should reply "I dunno
- but I'll find out." I guess I'm still finding out (I had to look up that stuff about the Centura...)
Another saturday night at home in front of the computer (at least there is a beer beside me)
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| posted on April 18th, 2009 at 08:41 PM |
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To quote from Tony Davis' book:
1. De Lorean: "The build quality was woeful. The design was tail-heavy, noisy, expensive and slow. Visibility was poor, the gullwing doors were a
disaster and the stainless steel bodywork found few friends. Sales were calamitous. Within a year the De Lorean Motor Company was in the hands of a
receiver."
2. NSU Ro80: "The car's revolutionary powerplant was its failure. The Ro80 was a great meal brought to the table too quickly. If it had been fitted
with a conventional engine, or launched a couple of years later with a better version of the same engine, it would have been an enduring success. At
least Mazda was to prove that the Wankel could be made reliable, if not cheap to produce or fuel efficient."
3. Mazda Roadpacer: "The Roadpacer was a sales disaster. The Wankel engine drank like a salaryman at the end of a long week. The Roadpacer was too
wide, causing problems on narrow Japanese streets. It attracted a 'wide car tax'. The suspension was softened so it bottomed out on anything
approaching a rough road. The body shape gave Mazda no advantages in weight distribution and few in packaging. The Roadpacer's weight was a hefty
1575kg and the high-revving 13B produced 98 kW. Mazda went to great lengths to produce a car that no quicker than a standard six-cylinder Holden
Premier, yet used a great deal more fuel in exchange for little more than additional smoothness. In any case, the car was killed off a few months
before Ford completed its purchase of 25% of Mazda's shares."
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| posted on April 18th, 2009 at 08:46 PM |
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but...
De Loreans are still being made now, Even if it is just because of the cool factor.
NSURo80 was the only reason rotarys ever got out there, without it there would be no hardcore rotarys... If there was no RX3's, there would be alot
more beetles, and alot less people with serious idea's of how to get amazing power down onto the track. Think of motoring history without rotarys....
I cant imagine it. The RX7 was and is an amazing car.
Roadpacer.... as above. totally pointless, however, 10 points for cool. 
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| Quote: | Originally
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Phil, is there anything in the past that you don't know about?
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Don't worry, if Phil is not around, there is always somebody else...
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| posted on April 18th, 2009 at 09:20 PM |
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De Lorean Motors went into receivership in 1982 and no originals have been made since then. The 'new' ones, made in Texas by a new company, are
replicas with many design changes; only 20% of the parts are original. Not the same thing.
Sure the Ro80 was a landmark car (although it was the NSU Spider that was the FIRST Wankel car) and I love them. But they were lemons because they
were put on sale before the engine was properly developed; as described, they were excellent otherwise (the 1982 Audi 100 was a tribute to the Ro80 in
many ways). The Wankel development sent NSU bankrupt. VW bought them and stopped major inventment in Wankel engines (the last Ro80 was made in 1976).
Mazda also came close to bankruptcy a few times, but they survived. Conventional engines are Mazda's mainstay today. BTW, they are Wankel engines,
not 'rotary' engines (an inaccurate nickname). ALL engines are 'rotary' engines.
10 points out of 100!
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fine. Its still a part of motor history. It was only set so far behind because the Germans put Felix wankel in jail.
I cant say I agree on it being an inaccurate nickname... The pistons dont rotate in a flat four...
I agree with you about Mazda today, I would say that FE's (rx8's) are only 2-3% of the company's sales..... max. (having worked there until
recently, I kinda know whats going on..)
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| Quote: | Originally
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Thanks for reminding me Lee, the chrysler centura. What a car!,I still have a new set of hydraulic lifters somewhere for one of theses s##that I got
stuck with with.If anyone is interested give me a call and I'll see if I can find them.
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My Son knows someone local who loves Centuras.... lol
he uses them as dirt race track cars....
although i would say He is using the 6 cylinder engine...
not the french engines... 4 cyls..
OK - what IS a lemon???
P76s were built at the wrong time... parts shortage due to strike...
NSU RO80.. I just love the body...
these cars would not have sold well in Germany or Europe
because of the Bad fuel economy...
GOGOmobile... two stroke engine needed the spark plugs cleaned nearly every time it stopped...
Interesting about the DeLorean...
a stainless steel body...
(They seemed like a good car in "Back to the future"..lol )
LEE
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If there's a car that's really hard on my eyes it's the Subaru Vortex. God dam they are the ugliest car ever!!
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