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posted on April 24th, 2009 at 07:47 PM |
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EZ30 H6 into Syncro T3. Pics.
We are doing an EZ30 H6 conversion into a 90 syncro Kombi atm. Brad suggested a thread might be of interest to people here. Some pics.
The EZ30 came from an 01 Lancaster halfcut(JDM Outback). The tidy looking cut was stripped of all the good bits quickly leaving us with the engine,
wiring loom, A/C comp, Alternator and PS pump. The rest is not relevant to the Kombi.
You can see the EZ30's crank trigger arrangement in this shot. It's a pressed tin plate that sandwiches between the crank and flywheel.
Here's the adaptor plate and Kennedy clutch supplied by John Sherman. Nasty looking clutch.
All bolted up.
We ripped out the horrible old 2.1 waterleaker engine and slid the EZ30 into place. There's plenty of room for it. The syncro has a large
frame/skidplate holding the engine up and protecting it. The EZ30's sump is about 2.5" lower and the engine mounts are further back so we moved the
engine support forward and lengthened an strenghtened the skid plate frame so it could support the engine via welded on brackets to the std EZ
mounts.
The mounts are tacked up ready for welding. We made some new aircon and PS hoses also.
Exhaust and cooling system is next.
Here's the wiring stripped down ready to be prepped for fitment to the syncro. There's a few wires to be removed.
Updates next week for exhaust and cooling system. Should sound cool with a really short exhaust.
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posted on April 24th, 2009 at 07:58 PM |
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Very interesting! Please keep the detail coming.
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posted on April 28th, 2009 at 06:14 PM |
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A few pics of the completed exhaust system.
I cut the factory head outlets pipes and shortened them by about 30mm so they were higher than the skid plate. Drivers side runs up under the
bellhousing, through a flange an then into the collector where it meets the passenger side. Both 2". Collector goes straight into a flanged 2'5"
cat then onto the mufflers at the rear, one 2.5" resonator and then a big 2.25" baffled barrell. Should be pretty quiet.
Also finished off most of the cooling system, the aircon is adapted and so is the PS.
Tomorrow I will make a cooling system header/top hose junction and prolly twitch a few wires together and start it.
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posted on April 29th, 2009 at 07:13 PM |
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Got it running this arv, just in time for me to go to Fiji for a wedding.
Fabbed up the coolant header tank/top hose junction out of 75x100 ally box. Has two turned down 28mm outlets(not a common size so turned down from
32mm thick wall pipe), a 16mm bleed system return, 38mm hose to the rad and a small filler.
Here's the old Bosch Digifant ecu next to the new EZ30 ecu. The digifant has about 10 wires, the EZ30 has about 80. We are keeping the hamster that
was running the digifant for a pet.
It's a bit quiet, needs less muffling.
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posted on April 30th, 2009 at 08:18 AM |
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whoo hoo
VERY nice
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posted on May 29th, 2009 at 11:54 AM |
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very neat but i reckon your engine mounts are not up to the task.those skid rails are pretty bendy,i've bent them a couple of times in fairly
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posted on September 14th, 2009 at 06:08 PM |
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I am in the middle of doing the same converson. How did it work out for power, torque & cooling? Thanks, Paul
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posted on September 16th, 2009 at 07:33 AM |
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Love the idea of the extra power, please keep the info flowing.
Can you do it for others if all goes well?
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posted on September 16th, 2009 at 10:08 PM |
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Looks like a very tidy conversion. Good work there.
what about the trans?
is it getting some better gears and such? coz i've been told they are not known for their strength.
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posted on October 8th, 2009 at 11:40 PM |
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Interested in an update on how this is going as I'm thinking of doing something to my T3 and I'm interested in the idea of a V6 Outback engine or an
STI engine.
Wouldn't you need a differant transmission to cope with the Subaru engine?
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posted on October 9th, 2009 at 01:38 AM |
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I think you will find this is now long been out of the Am work shop
how the trans will Cope, depends how you drive it
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posted on October 9th, 2009 at 06:02 AM |
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Thanks for the reply seagull.
Do you know if a 3 speed auto could handle the subaru engine? I'd rather swap it over for a 5 or 6 speed subaru transmission and do the conversion
with the transmission so i can drive it either way you know, but just curious.
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posted on October 9th, 2009 at 07:05 PM |
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The autos are good , I am stocking a SR20 turbo behind one
Mate there is heaps of data on why you can not use a subaru trans , the search function is above & best to look in there for this topic as its
been well thrashed over the years
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posted on October 9th, 2009 at 07:10 PM |
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Yes you can use a Subaru trans. It just needs a specialpart fitted. Available for Xmas.
Reversed gears for Subaru transmissions.
Fit a Subaru 5 speed to your rear engined car
www.subarugears.com
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posted on October 10th, 2009 at 12:32 AM |
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After testing
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posted on October 10th, 2009 at 02:10 PM |
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he he fingers crossed we don't see teeth flying off crownwheels at the first launch.....
Reversed gears for Subaru transmissions.
Fit a Subaru 5 speed to your rear engined car
www.subarugears.com
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posted on October 19th, 2009 at 10:18 PM |
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Quote: | Originally
posted by syncro ed
very neat but i reckon your engine mounts are not up to the task.those skid rails are pretty bendy,i've bent them a couple of times in fairly
moderate off roading,,, be careful!!!!
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Somehow I think Al has done this stuff before and Im sure the handy work with the engine mounts will be up to it. Looking good all the same.
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posted on April 17th, 2013 at 11:06 PM |
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I'm looking at doing a conversion as well so would like know how this turned out. Did you do a gearbox mod as well ? I have a dual cab Syncro and
thinking of the H6 or the Subaru diesel. The problem I have with the diesel conversion is there is very little feed back as to how it goes by the
owners. It would be great to get an idea of costs too.
Love to hear from you
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posted on April 18th, 2013 at 11:45 AM |
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don't even think of using a manual vw tranny with a suby six they have no hope handling the torque ,I went for a porsche 930 box but if I had the
option back then probaly would have given the suby box a go....Maybe one day might go to a suby box so it can be 4wd again
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posted on April 18th, 2013 at 01:32 PM |
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fits like a glove. nice.
71 notchback,
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posted on April 18th, 2013 at 05:42 PM |
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Do not even think of doing this in a Syncro unless you do a complete rebuild of your gearbox, and then you will still be playing roulette. I know some
of the Americans are running this combination but they are rebuilding their gearboxes again and again.
I would only run a H6 with a manual subaru, porsche or rebuilt VW automatic box.
I have seen this conversion and I have also seen the gearbox from it with the pinion shredded and pushed back through the gearbox.
And here it sits!
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posted on April 23rd, 2013 at 10:50 PM |
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I have a 2.7H6 147hp donk in my syncro and I have had for the last 15 years.
Goes well but a tad thirsty and I am on my 2nd gearbox rebuild with the last one done about 8 years ago.
Second gear smashed again. Getting a stronger yet slightly taller 2nd gear set in now from USA - hopefully that will last.
Is this 6cyl still running in the syncro or has something broken?
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posted on April 23rd, 2013 at 11:06 PM |
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how come its thirsty?
71 notchback,
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posted on April 26th, 2013 at 11:58 PM |
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From what I have read the reason the manual VW gearbox fail with the huge torque of the H6 is the lack of flex. If you use standard cv that break
before the tranny does, and cro-moly race axles that flex 20% or so then it takes the breaking strain out of the gearbox or something like that. The
Theory sounds good and I guess it explains why the autos handle the big motors better having the torque converter to absorb some of the shock. It
would be my intention to upgrade the gearbox with taller albin gears stick with the standard CVs and if possible fit cro-moly drive shafts. Blablabla
hmm I'm dreaming I think not sure I have enough fun tickets. OK Plan B anyone have any feed back on the suby diesel??
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posted on April 28th, 2013 at 04:40 PM |
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suby diesel even more torque my
svx motor broke syncro box & six rib kombi box just driving around the problem is when u come to a steep hill or any desent hill instead of
changing down as u would with a vw donk you just squease the the fun pedal a bit more and go straight up u dont even realise the gearbox is coping a
hard time because the suby motor does it soooooo easy
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posted on April 28th, 2013 at 09:57 PM |
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Hey Skot,how was the ring and pinion?
Is Ronnie doing the job?
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posted on April 28th, 2013 at 11:13 PM |
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Quote: | Originally
posted by PAZZAN
suby diesel even more torque my
svx motor broke syncro box & six rib kombi box just driving around the problem is when u come to a steep hill or any desent hill instead of
changing down as u would with a vw donk you just sqease the the fun pedal a bit more and go straight up u dont even realise the gearbox is coping a
hard time because the suby motor does it soooooo easy
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yeah like going up long steep hills in top gear coz you can, coz the engine can.
71 notchback,
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