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 stilson
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| posted on August 24th, 2010 at 08:14 PM |
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Hid headlights
Hi guys, Ive been looking at HID lights recently as I have a set of
KC daylighters but they're a narrow beam and I want a wider throw
of light. So I was thinking of replacing my headlights with HID.
This may also give my alternator a bit of a break.
Has anyone done this mod?
Cheers Seanan.
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| posted on August 24th, 2010 at 08:25 PM |
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I've had a play around with them, the only way to get them to work properly is with projector headlights, but the bigger problem is its not legal to
fit them to cars that didnt come from the factory with them.
Doesnt stop people doing it but you will piss off every other road user with them in non projector headlights
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| posted on August 24th, 2010 at 11:04 PM |
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i fitter a set of 55W @ 5000k to my motorbike, made a huge difference, but yes they piss ppl off, it was good cause it meant they saw me.
like joel said get em in projectors.
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| posted on August 25th, 2010 at 03:26 AM |
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Thanks Joel Ive found a few bargain H4 projection lenses, the only issue being they are all from USA where they drive on the right/wrong side of the
road,
I wonder if their headlights throw curve up to the right as ours do to the left.
I'm leaning towards a 6000K HID (or 5000K if I can find) conversion because the blue pisses me off on other peoples cars.
HIDplanet seems to have loads of info.
@zocstar since being a postie I ride with my high beam on all the time. 
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| posted on August 25th, 2010 at 06:47 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by stilson
Hi guys, Ive been looking at HID lights recently as I have a set of
KC daylighters but they're a narrow beam and I want a wider throw
of light. So I was thinking of replacing my headlights with HID.
This may also give my alternator a bit of a break.
Has anyone done this mod?
Cheers Seanan.
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hI
THEY ARE ILLEGAL AND ARE BEING TARGETED BY NSW HIGHWAY PATROLS
HID lights can only be original...
plus I believe they need to be self levelling???
the laws are so tight now , even placing a chromed tip on Your new car can make it illegal.. as its non standard... lol
I never run more than 55 watt H4 Xenon bulbs in mY driving lamps ...
with driving lamps there are narrow or spread beam usually..
I prefer the spread beam...
cheers
LEE
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| posted on August 25th, 2010 at 09:50 AM |
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posted by stilson
Thanks Joel Ive found a few bargain H4 projection lenses, the only issue being they are all from USA where they drive on the right/wrong side of the
road,
I wonder if their headlights throw curve up to the right as ours do to the left.
I'm leaning towards a 6000K HID (or 5000K if I can find) conversion because the blue pisses me off on other peoples cars.
HIDplanet seems to have loads of info.
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I've actually just fitted a set of those to my bug,
Happy in most respects but on Hihg beam they throw a real spotlight like pencil beam down the road with not much side spread
Previously i had semi sealeds from overseas which had the LHD pattern so it threw the light at oncoming traffic abit
These new projectors have a symetrical reflector so they aren't LHD/RHD specific
I have got a 6000K HID kit i was thinking about trying in but as above theyre illegal and the cops love to pick on people with them, they are very
dazzling to on coming cars without projectors
I used to get flashed all the time
Also the best Kelvin temp to get is actually 4300 which is what all the OEM setups are
6000 is starting to get that whiteish blue look and past that is really blue and very unusable, blue doesnt light stuff up properly
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| posted on August 25th, 2010 at 10:22 AM |
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I believe that you could legally retro-fit HID headlamps, but they MUST have a self-levelling system and electric washers. I can't remember whether
or not you need an engineer's report for them, but I would say that you probably do.
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| posted on August 25th, 2010 at 10:34 AM |
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Hi
I bought a HID conversion kit made by Hella for an Audi A3, I've put this on the back burner for now, I'm just going top use original 911
headlights.
The Audi kit has an ECU to do the levelling and I have 911 headlight washer units to fit to the front bumper, but it would probably still be
technically illegal.
Steve
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| posted on August 25th, 2010 at 11:22 AM |
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Nice setup! I'm sure that even if it was still technically illegal, the police and motor reg boys would appreciate the effort that you put in to make
it as safe as possible.
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| posted on August 25th, 2010 at 09:20 PM |
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I put 35 watt @ 6000k in my 64. Makes a huge difference and looks great. Try these guys http://www.delonixradar.com.au/ Very helpful and quick with delivery if you're in a rush.
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| posted on August 26th, 2010 at 01:10 AM |
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Wow that's going to be pretty special.
I'm close to settled on narva semi sealed
h4 conversion with pk light pt 72040 $125.
The lenses and reflectors are of very high quality.
Auto one have a hid conversion kit to fit for
$350 but I'll know more about that tomorow.
I'll have a leftover set of 100/55 halogens.
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| posted on September 10th, 2010 at 09:24 AM |
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has anyone had bad experiences with the lights shutting off if the generator or alternator cant supply enough volts? I read some reports in 4wd
websites, HID systems are either on or off apparently, according to what I read.
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| posted on September 10th, 2010 at 12:21 PM |
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Sounds like a bit of interwebz parrotting you've heard uber.
Mine take about 5-10 secs to heat up to full intensity but once theyre warmed up the beauty of them is the low power draw
Most kits are only 35w but there are 55w kits, and if your having trouble with that kinda wattage then you got problems
I think it says on my ballasts the voltage range is 9-18volt
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| posted on September 10th, 2010 at 12:25 PM |
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They're usually only 35W so the gen or alt would have a pretty easy time keeping up. If the charging system failed the lights would flick off when
the voltage was too low to arc.
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| posted on September 10th, 2010 at 03:41 PM |
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they must be self levelling in NSW...
even then they may be still illegal if they didn't come out in that model car...
NSW highway patrol officers have a blitz on illegal headlamps every so often...
Money making is the reason....
now if they booked every car on the New England Highway near Scone..
with one headlamp... and no parking lamp, so they look like a motor cycle...
one tail lamp or stop lamp etc...
they would make a heap of money....
I've never seen so many vehicles with one headlamp..!!
LEE
PS: not that there is anything wrong with that...... lol
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| posted on September 10th, 2010 at 04:20 PM |
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I cannot see any rhyme or reason for issueing tickets for these lights which would improve safety. Except, of course, to make money!
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| posted on September 10th, 2010 at 07:46 PM |
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I cannot see any rhyme or reason for issueing tickets for these lights which would improve safety. Except, of course, to make money!
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They don't necessarily improve safety if they are setup wrong. If they are self levelling, then they dont blind oncoming drivers. Answer if you have
ever had a car come towards you with annoying headlights that make you have to look to the side of the road while driving?
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| posted on September 11th, 2010 at 11:15 AM |
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thanks for the clarification Joel..... the origins of my (mis)information was from a landrover website after all. Anyone who has had to work on
british auto-electrics will understand.
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