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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 06:56 AM |
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high speed track issue??
Just a question on handling at higher speeds
My car drives fine and handles well - most of the time
The only time I have an issue is if I change lanes on a multi lane free way at higher speeds.
Not that I would drive in excess of 110km/hr - but lets just assume for the sake of arguement that I did 
As I said -
if I drive straight - fine
if I go round a corner - fine
The issue I have is when I go to and changle lanes and hit the cats eyes I seem to get a quick twist/pull/track issue. Sort of like a very quick left
right??
Nothing major - just a bit of a pull/wiggle
Hard to test but seems to be only when i hit cats eyes??
Not many places I can test without lane markers
Dont believe it is an issue if I drive on a single lane and go to overtake
Is it just the fact I am running wide wheels??
Rear wheel alignment?
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 07:02 AM |
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NO get a torsion bar front end never a problem with them
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 07:05 AM |
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How wide are your tyres? Very wide tyre can 'tram-line', particularly if the wheel alignment is not spot on.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 07:58 AM |
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Hi Baz
You may need more caster.
Steve
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 08:11 AM |
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have u checked all the bushes n ball joints for wear
the cat eyes will lift the load from the wheel
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 09:45 AM |
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Thanks for the replies
Dave
Go away - NEVER will I take a retrogressive step
Happy
Tires
Front - 205 16" 55 series
Rear - 225 16" 50 series
Are you talking front or rear wheel alignment or both??
Steve
How do you adjust caster??
Dave
Ball joints are less than 2 years old
I did a FULL front end bush upgrade a while back
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 10:09 AM |
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Hi
Caster is fixed but it can be adjusted if adjustable strut tops are fitted or a new sway bar with caster adjustment built in.
Steve
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 12:08 PM |
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Like Greg said its just tram tracking, I get it in mine when I have big rims on.
Bout the only downside to having wide tyres on.
I generally do my own alignments but a good computer one by a tyre shop can usually get rid of it.
I fixed my castor problems with lowered swaybar and castor fix bushings from topline,
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 01:28 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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NO get a torsion bar front end never a problem with them
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Ha ha. Go on Barry, you know you want to,
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 02:54 PM |
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I've been trying to figure out what the cats eyes had to do with your problem. OK, they usually put them on the join - where the lanes of hot-mix meet,right? Those joints are not always even or level, and when
the tyres hit that uneven joint, the tend to follow the crooked line. That's known as 'tram lining' (or 'tram tracking', if you are from the Northern Rivers area) - the wider the tyres, the worse
it is, usually. Maybe that's why those V8 Super-duper car drivers keep hitting each other - they use VERY wide tyres.
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 04:31 PM |
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HappyDaze
What I mean by cats eyes is the white bump things on the broken lines between lanes on the M4
When I hit them I have my moment
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 04:44 PM |
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Barry
have you tried holding onto the wheel tighter ????
Mate do yrself a favour and convert it to a torsion bar no more clunks or bangs
What toe in do u have maybe a little more may get it tracking better
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 05:09 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Barry
have you tried holding onto the wheel tighter ????
Mate do yrself a favour and convert it to a torsion bar no more clunks or bangs
What toe in do u have maybe a little more may get it tracking better
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Then get the council to widen the road so that you can turn your car around, and in return you can plough fields for them with the tractor suspension
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 05:11 PM |
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at least they dont have issues "" high speed track issue?? """
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 05:23 PM |
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You're getting a lot of advice here, and it's all free The thing about free advice..........you get what you pay for.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 05:54 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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at least they dont have issues "" high speed track issue?? """
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So how do you describe what happened
with the Vintage car at Warwick Dave?!
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That's mad Alan.
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 05:56 PM |
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at least they dont have issues "" high speed track issue?? """
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So how do you describe what happened
with the Vintage car at Warwick Dave?!
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If it had more lock he could have caught it
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 07:00 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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You're getting a lot of advice here, and it's all free The thing about free advice..........you get what you pay for.
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haha fuching awesome
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So how do you describe what happened
happened rnwith the Vintage car at Warwick Dave?!
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driver error hes drives farking oooyota every day of the week
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| posted on December 20th, 2010 at 09:23 PM |
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what are your shocks and struts like ?
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| posted on December 21st, 2010 at 08:16 AM |
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All newish -
KYB's on the rear about 4 years old
Boge?? inserts on the front about a year old
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| posted on December 21st, 2010 at 07:22 PM |
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its a superbug thing
there shite
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| posted on December 21st, 2010 at 07:23 PM |
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as already stated above ,more caster will improve stability at higher speeds
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| posted on December 21st, 2010 at 07:53 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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its a superbug thing
there shite
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I agree with this and I love my Super! The front end design just does like to shake and shimmy around. You've done well to only have it happening at
high speeds, mine sometimes does it a 60km/h. Tried new bushes and so forth, but I think it's just basically an inherent flaw in the design. The only
thing which always cures it for me is putting weight in the front. When I'm helping a mate work on his car and load up with a heavy floor jack, axle
stands and other tools then the car drives beautifully. With no load in the front the ride is not as nice and it occasionally gets the 'superbug
shimmies'.
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| posted on December 21st, 2010 at 08:31 PM |
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its a superbug thing
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r....i....g....h.....t
Thanks for the advice johnny
Now what did Happy say about free advice 
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| posted on December 21st, 2010 at 08:38 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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its a superbug thing
there shite
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as usual another quality lot of information there mate keep up the good work
tosser
mine drive as smooth as any beam version ive driven.
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| posted on December 21st, 2010 at 09:05 PM |
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Hi
I haven't had the shakes since I went to Urethane bushes.
When you lower a Super you actually take caster away, the wheels get pushed toward the back of the car.
Try some caster fix bushes, I have some you can borrow if you want, I took them out my sons bug as they made the tyres touch the front edge of the
mudguard, we only have fag paper of clearance at the best of times.
Steve
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| posted on December 21st, 2010 at 09:55 PM |
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thats funny , beam front end cars don't have any tracking issues
Tosser 
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| posted on December 21st, 2010 at 10:28 PM |
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its a superbug thing
there shite
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as usual another quality lot of information there mate keep up the good work
tosser
mine drive as smooth as any beam version ive driven.
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| posted on December 21st, 2010 at 10:47 PM |
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more caster will help at high speeds. not enough caster will cause twitchiness and instability at high speeds.
Polyurethane bushes help enormously. I know first hand  
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