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| posted on September 17th, 2011 at 04:36 PM |
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Chinese Dizzy
Can someone tell me if a 009 Chinese Dizzy can go "DEAD"
what ever i have in it,...it just does not seem to run.
Put a genuine article in and my engine starts.
i think i am in need of a refund. thats my only hope,
other wise my electrics are dead, BUT all the checking seems to be fine.
you name it i have done it. 
ANYONE!
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 posted on September 17th, 2011 at 05:59 PM |
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Chinese dizzies... rubbish
there are many different factories pushing out 009 dizzies...
many cannot be timed correctly because of poor quality
the balancing springs are rubbish... even if the rest of it is OK..
A Bosch 009 will slowly go out of tune if its worn out..
but many of the copies are just rubbish...
Yes, a refund should be given...
I know of a VW shop who has a large box of those dissies and will not sell them...
You need to really ask the person selling the dissies what they are like...
Bosch dissies from the USA aircooled.net are pretested on a machine to match your carburetor...
expensive Yes.. but the best...
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| posted on September 17th, 2011 at 06:40 PM |
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I assume it is one of the 009 electronic distributors, if this is the case the answer is yes they spit the dummy regularly.I could cit the case of a
person who drove 350km and the distributor died on Pennant hills road in peak hour-not pretty.Try changing a distributor there.
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| posted on September 17th, 2011 at 08:27 PM |
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its not electronic and has not seen 30 minutes on the engine.
its rubbish, no notch for timing either.
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| posted on September 17th, 2011 at 09:45 PM |
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The most common problem is that the points close up or have a bit anti corrosion compound on them,it is not unknown for a condenser to fail or a wire
break.I am assuming that the points haven't closed up and you have a point gap,if so with the points closed flick the moving point open with the
ignition on and see if you have spark.
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| posted on September 17th, 2011 at 10:15 PM |
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I had a set of points fail on me the other day
Absolutely no spring tension in them what so ever.
They were about 3hrs old
Took me bloody ages to find it
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Bizarre
I had a set of points fail on me the other day
Absolutely no spring tension in them what so ever.
They were about 3hrs old
Took me bloody ages to find it
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Never ever seen or heard of that happening...
what brand of points??
the only points failure I have had was the rubbing block was plastic and it twisted and shorted My electronic Hi power ignition system and burnt it
out...
Good Bosch points have the rubbing block made from bakelite
all points used to have a coating on the point surfaces
and they were normally cleaned with petrol before being used
and a piece of cardboard or paper in between the points
they also came with a small sachet of grease
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| posted on September 18th, 2011 at 09:20 AM |
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remember a gentle bit of grease should be added to the shaft lobes for that plastic drive 
Your condenser on the dissy hasn't spit the dummy?
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| posted on September 18th, 2011 at 07:11 PM |
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I love these guessing games. I bet condenser too.
Test the coil first, power to positive, touch the negative to earth, when you release the connection you should get spark at the coil lead, that's
what the points do. Then check the points are clean, opening, closing etc. Disconnect the condenser, check you have continuity to earth with the
points closed, and not with them open, use a light or a multimeter. Connect the points to the coil negative, power to the coil positive, open and
close the points, spark at the coil lead now? Re-connect the condenser, if there’s no spark now, you’ve found it.
I had a car brought to me with an “intermittent” problem once. Took ages to work out that the tacho was faulty. Disconnected the tacho wire from
the negative side of the coil, problem gone. Disconnect the tacho first before you start any of the above, start with a bare system.
Good luck.
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| posted on September 18th, 2011 at 07:31 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Super1302
Can someone tell me if a 009 Chinese Dizzy can go "DEAD"
what ever i have in it,...it just does not seem to run.
Put a genuine article in and my engine starts.
i think i am in need of a refund. thats my only hope,
other wise my electrics are dead, BUT all the checking seems to be fine.
you name it i have done it.
ANYONE!
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Hi
If the DISTRIBUTOR was WORKING OK and then just stopped
working... then the condensor is most likely the problem
the condensor should have been changed with the distributor
they are a replaceable part and should be renewed about every 30,000 miles along with the rotor button and distributor cap...
Years ago I had an L300 Mitsubishi that went thru condensors .... about 3 a year ... I used to have a spare one in place ready to connect up when the
other one failed...
Never found any reason... for the high failure rate..
I always carry a new condensor , rotor button and distributor cap and points in My beetle...
LEE
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| posted on September 18th, 2011 at 07:33 PM |
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Hi
I'm also guessing that when You replaced the chinese distributor
the other distributor had another condensor on it...
LEE
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