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| posted on October 29th, 2003 at 12:15 AM |
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so I would be OK in saying we should run the new beetle, well new to us, on ULP as well??
good, also I have been running my 1970 mazda 1300 on ULP for over a year now, and I havent had any reliability problems at all with it, so it must be
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| posted on January 18th, 2004 at 08:18 AM |
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for those running on pulp, you can buy an octane booster additive that can be used when travelling and pulp is not always available.
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| posted on January 18th, 2004 at 05:01 PM |
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is it a good idea if u are using ulp or pulp to put on a cat??
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| posted on January 18th, 2004 at 06:40 PM |
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fuel for fools
anyone know the different flow rates and octane ratings of all the PULPs?
a very well known carb servicer once told me that he's seen degradation caused by optimax. apparently it cleans too well and corrodes stuff. i
dunno. i'm still using it. i do notice a build up of a yellowish oil fumy deposit on the top lids of the air cleaners... hmmmm
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| posted on January 19th, 2004 at 11:02 AM |
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i've heard some very similar things about optimax
everyone i've talked to about fuels say that bp ultimate is the shit to go for
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| posted on January 19th, 2004 at 05:29 PM |
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yes. i've also heard optimax causes depravation 
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| posted on February 1st, 2004 at 07:43 PM |
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OPTIMAX!
I had been using BP Ultimate religously, often going out of my way to ensure a 'pure line'.
Well, I have recently moved to Port Macquarie and to my horror they don't have Ultimate here! Of course they have BP but there no Ultimate bowser
anywhere in town.
Hmm, Feeling like my sponsor has just left me hanging out to dry I rolled into Shell with the last drops of Ultimate in my tank. On the advice of a
bloke at the next bowser I filled up with Optimax...
Within 5 minutes of restarting the engine there were flat spots backfiring and generally disagreeable feel to my bus. I was cursing the very name of
BP.
Anyway, the next day I jump in ready for what should have been a failure to start and low and behold she fires up immediately!....and runs
smoothly!....and tackles the local 'death hill' with considerable ease!....and does not have flat spots!...and always starts when hot!.. and
....the list goes on fellow dubbers.
I am with Optimax, will anyone join me?
PS No, I don't work at Shell or in a service station, I'm just saying 'If I hadnt tried then I wouldnt know'.
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| posted on February 1st, 2004 at 08:57 PM |
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stuff. and things.
i think the question is to do with the long term effects: 5 mins just shifts the crud out of your lines and cleans your jets... leading to a bit of
misbehaving...... and then what... runs great... eats bits away slowly.... or do I just work for BP?
anyone know the theory behind flashlube?
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| posted on February 1st, 2004 at 10:35 PM |
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Actually, I happen to be closely related to someone who works for BP...
I think some imaginations are running wild with people; in reality, the different companies actually get fuel from each other's refineries! They
claim different characteristics mostly by leaning on the testing procedure toward a particular goal... (Unofficially, I heard from another source
that BP had to claim the lower, more accurate figure in order to keep it's lucrative motor racing association.)
As for flashlube - I believe it uses much the same active ingredient as LRP. There are some quality octane improvers available from auto stores,
fortunately VWs don't need lead or it's substitutes (I think of my youth, when you could buy a tetraethyl lead additive from speed shops.)
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hey guys, ive been running my '76 , 2 ltr.fuel injected kombi on ULP and have filled with PULP on two different occassions and it runs heaps
hotter,than with ULP. not good.!:cussing reason i tried PULP was the forum seamed to recommend it, but she dont like it! any one got idea why? :o
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| posted on February 1st, 2004 at 10:57 PM |
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To run noticeably hotter seems strange... There is a reason it would run a little hotter, but I'm not going to mention it as it upsets certain
people - but I wouldn't expect a driver to notice it.
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| posted on February 1st, 2004 at 11:30 PM |
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S:alieno whats the reason for blue buses engine to over heat with pulp (ultimate) that is?:cussing:repuke
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| posted on February 1st, 2004 at 11:32 PM |
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you can tell me auto stic i can take it:P
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| posted on February 3rd, 2004 at 08:22 PM |
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:bouncestands to reason that the same tanker brings everyones fuel accross to OZ. I mean it's not coffee is it? You know, Columbia, Java
etc......or is it?
I thought crude petroleum comes from different regions and therefore will comprise differing ratios of hydrocarbons dependent on the source.
I also think that this raw petroleum product enters a particular companies refinery i.e. SHELL or BP and comes out the other end as the stated product
you buy at the bowser.
And doesnt each franchise have a set of standard operating procedures that dictate safe and effective handling of fuels so as to ensure quality
control and thereby minimise risk to engines?
I am not 100% certain of this but there is plenty of room for differences as I see it, can anyone assist?
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| posted on February 3rd, 2004 at 08:51 PM |
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hi
I have been running my type 3 twin carbs with a lot of miles ( this car and when engine was in old body ) on it I lost count about 3 years ago as
speedo had gone around to many times on bp/shell pulp for 4 months hand it runs very well on both .
Some times I put a little bit of lash lube in about every 2nd or 3 rd tank judt for luc.
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| posted on February 3rd, 2004 at 11:05 PM |
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my soapbox is looking tatty
if you've been running for three years and watching your valve clearances i'd be interested as to your findings. we really don't know
what the seats are made of on any given day, on any given set of heads.
catalytic converters have a limited life, and some people have raised the question of environmental awareness too many times to miss chucking my 2c
in. how many times have you driven along behind a 'new' car with the sulfur stench so bad you blame the dog? as it doesn't affect the
performance of the vehicle, how many people are actually going to replace their cats once they're dead? do they even know they're dead?
welcome to acid rain and some say even worse environmental side effects than super petrol. when was the last time that you saw a EPA car with
it's exhaust gas analyser hanging out the back of a hyundai that's been pulled over? huh? huh?:jesus
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| posted on February 3rd, 2004 at 11:26 PM |
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yes Peter, when the cat dies they put out far worse than the old leaded fuel & nobody is going to replace a catalytic convertor when they find the
cost out, when our Kombi was suffering a slow death in Central Aust on #1 & #3 exhaust ( Murphy said it had to be one in each head), we were
running parallel with a Peugoet reanactment run of the 52 Redex trial , mostly '50's & 60's cars some of them had the same problem
some did not, it basically came down through elimination that almost all of the valve seat problems were on seats that had had the face re-cut -
removing the hardness , or embedded lead protection, on dismantling the (reconditioned ) engine I found that about 3mm of the seat faces of the two
problem cylinders had disappeared, whereas the seats in:jesus the respective adjacent cylinders were as new
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| posted on February 7th, 2004 at 02:17 PM |
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Woolies garbage
Thanx for the warning on Woolies petrol. My suzuki was pinging and struggling all over the place. I thought the engine was on the way out after nearly
220K. I filled the tank with optimax yesterday and it's like a different car. Smooth power delivery and absolutely no pinging. From now on the
car will be using premium unleaded.
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| posted on October 5th, 2004 at 12:19 PM |
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Sorry to reopen a pretty old thread but I had not seen this one until the link to it was posted in the unleaded thread today.
I used to work for BP (coding the software that they use in their depots to fill the tankers) and I can confirm that the major companies (BP, Shell
and Mobil) all run joint ventures from state to state supplying each others fuel. So in Vic where there is no BP refinerey BP stations are pumping
Shell fuel and vise versa in Perth for example. There is a facility for the different companies to add different additives at the time the tankers
are filled but this has not been used for some time as I understand it.
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| posted on October 5th, 2004 at 01:28 PM |
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Hmm, so you're saying that we can't get BP Ultimate in Melbourne? I always go to the BP near where I live, but if it's just shell Optimax... You
sure about that. Wouldn't there be some sort of false advertising legalities that might bite them on the bum for this?
EDIT: oh no , I misspellt "bight"! (Been thinking about driving to WA, past the great aussie " .)
[Edited on 5-10-2004 by aggri1]
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| posted on October 5th, 2004 at 01:43 PM |
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In QLD nearly all fuel is supplied by the BP refinery, it's only Caltex and one or two others that don't. So all this about "don't buy it here or
there" is crap unless the station owners are adding the additives themselves to "thin" out the fuel for more product to sell. I'll have more
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| posted on October 5th, 2004 at 01:48 PM |
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im interested to know why engines run hotter on premium. ive been using LRP for ages however the other day i decided to see what all this fuss was
about with premium so i ran Ultimate (filled the tank with the stuff) and it did seem to run a bit smoother and i though hey maybe it is worth it. now
i dont have a temp guage so i dont know if it ran hotter or not but the day after i filled the tank up and i turned off the car on a hot day after
parking at work it stopped and then kinda fired up and ran rough for a couple of seconds before dieing again. i found this rather interesting and was
thinking of getting some hotter plugs for it as i had been told this would fix the problem. usually if i cant get LRP i would use ULP and put some
flashlube in. but after the ultimate i just filled up with LRP the next time. to tell the truth the best my car has ever run was when i put the
remains of the 50:1 boat fuel tank in my car (mixed 2 stroke ULP fuel).
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Ps: my car hasnt run on since that one time even though i still ran the PULP for a couple of days.
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| posted on October 5th, 2004 at 01:50 PM |
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geez you sound like me. I remember when we had drained my tank and went to refill it when we realised the drum we had siphoned the fuel into had about
a 1/4 of Diesel in it. Didn't run that bad either.
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| posted on October 5th, 2004 at 01:52 PM |
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i heard somewhere that running diesel through an engine can help to clean out the carbs or something..........i think it was in the john muirs book.
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| posted on October 5th, 2004 at 02:34 PM |
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I am pretty sure it is correct Aggri1. I know it was the case a couple of years ago when I worked there and it certainly surprised me at the time.
The other thing that I did not know is that there are regulations about how many petrol stations the petroleum companies can own. BP only owns about
4 in Vic and all the other BP badged stations a franchises or something similar. There were a few petrol zealots at BP who would only fill their cars
up at the BP owned stations.
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| posted on October 5th, 2004 at 02:52 PM |
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What fuel
Use the Pemium Unleaded with Valve Master additive which is available at all Shell servos. I've been running it for 4 years without any problems.
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| posted on October 5th, 2004 at 03:11 PM |
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hey guys I'm a noob so please forgive me
my car has a 1200 which has been rebuilt, but neither the seller or I know when. seller told me the car will only run on LRP, but I would prefer using
PULP if I had the choice
the main questions is:
If I use PULP will the car explode? that's my biggest concern. should I use PULP from now on and not touch LRP again? another
question is... if it does explode, will I die? :duh
[Edited on 5-10-2004 by Lams]
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| posted on October 5th, 2004 at 03:14 PM |
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you shouldnt have any problems and it definatly shouldnt explode so if u experience problems running PULP u can always switch back to LRP or ULP with
additive.
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| posted on June 29th, 2005 at 09:40 AM |
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Have just picked up a 73 Kombi and used PLP driving it back from Byron Bay.....went well but with the extra cost of PLP would like to consider using
ULP instead.
Interesting to read in an earlier post that all post 1967 VW's have hardened valve seats so the addition of fuel additives are necessary - is this
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| posted on June 29th, 2005 at 10:20 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Stompy
Interesting to read in an earlier post that all post 1967 VW's have hardened valve seats so the addition of fuel additives are necessary - is this
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No the addition of additives is UN-necessary
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