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posted on August 20th, 2005 at 09:46 AM
I found this pic the other day of an Alfa motor in a Beetle...
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posted on August 20th, 2005 at 09:50 AM
That looks like an injected 1.4 like someone on here is putting in. Fits quite nicely!
Do you know anything about this car?
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posted on August 20th, 2005 at 11:25 PM
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That looks like an injected 1.4 like someone on here is putting in. Fits quite nicely!
Do you know anything about this car?
I do.
That car is owned by a dutch guy. I had some e-mail contact with him, because I am also planning a conversion to an Alfa Romeo engine. I allready
bought the 1.4 fuel injected engine.
The car in the picture has a 1.7 litre engine in it. Both his 1.7 and my 1.4 are SOHC. These will fit (tight fit) in the engine bay without moving the
tranny forward. Earlier in this post (on the first page) is a picture of a Alfa converted beetle with the cut-outs in the fenders and rear engine lid.
That engine is a DOHC and, as you could see, doesn't really fit well.
With the SOHC engines you have to modify the rear bumper brackets, to make room for the distribution belts.
I you look closely at the pictures of the yellow bug you'll notice the bumper brackets are further apart then stock... nicely done hey?
I have some pictures 0f his modifications, do you want to see them?
I made a web-page bout my conversion. Not much on it, cause I'm just starting... :
Greetings,
Gerrelt.nn[ Edited on 20/8/2005 by gerrelt ]
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posted on August 21st, 2005 at 12:34 PM
Great site Gerrelt, thanks for the link, and the info on the yellow bug.
Good luck with your conversion, let us know how you get on. I like your thinking..."not to big, because that would be uneconomical" (especially as
Petrol prices sky rocket) "and I'd have to upgrade the rest of the car"
Cheers
Jeremynn[ Edited on 21-8-2005 by Jeza ]
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posted on August 21st, 2005 at 07:38 PM
Thanks for sharing gerrelt. So what Alfas did the injected SOHC engines come in? And what sort of hp/torque do the produce?
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posted on August 22nd, 2005 at 05:10 AM
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Thanks for sharing gerrelt. So what Alfas did the injected SOHC engines come in? And what sort of hp/torque do the produce?
The SOHC (8v) fuel injected boxer engine was in the Alfa Romeo 33 and in the Alfa Romeo 145.
The 33 had the 1.4 and 1.7 which had about 90 hp and 110. The 1.4 33 only had injection from 1992 to 1994. The 1.7 had it from 1990 to 1994.
The 145 (newer model than the 33) had a boxer engine from 1994 to 1997. After that, the 145 switched to an in-line engine (probably because of lower
production costs).
Watch out, this data is all very rough.nn[ Edited on 21/8/2005 by gerrelt ]
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These are almost all the specs concerning the alfa romeo boxer engines. The later IE (series 3) engines are also used in the Alfa 145/146.
YEAR OF PRODUCTION: 1983/1986 (I series), 1986/1989 (II series), 1990/1994 (III series)
Distribution-control : single overhead cam (belt)
Fuel system : 2 twin choke carburettors
Alfa 33 1.4 iE (series 3)
Engine-characteristics Alfa 33 1.4 iE
No. of cylinders, layout x 4, front longitudinal
Bore & stroke (mm) x 80 x 67,2
Displacement (cm3) x 1351
Compression ratio x 9,5 : 1
Max. output (EEC):bhp (KW) x 90 (65)
rpm x 6000
Max. torque (EEC):mkg (NM) x -- (113)
rpm x 4500
Engine-construction
Distribution-control x single overhead cam (belt)
Fuel system x electronic injection Weber IAW
Distribution-control : single overhead cam (belt)
Fuel system : electronic injection
Alfa 33 1.7 iE (series 3)
Engine-characteristics Alfa 33 1.7 iE
No. of cylinders, layout : 4, front longitudinal | The Alfa 33 1.7 iE was available in a version with-
Bore & stroke (mm) : 87 x 72 | and without catalytic converter. This causes
Displacement (cm3) : 1712 | some small differences in performance.
Compression ratio : 9,5 : 1 | The differences for the 'cat' version are:
Max. output (EEC):bhp (KW) : 110 (79) /5800rpm | 107 (77) /5800rpm
Max. torque (EEC):mkg (NM) : 15,5 (148) /4500rpm | 15,2 (145) /4500rpm
Distribution-control : single overhead cam (belt)
Fuel system : electronic injection Bosch L3.1 Jetronic | + lambda sonde
All the Alfa engines should be handled with care when cold, once warmed up they are just wonderfull
Especialy the carburetted engines are the ones wich can give you a real hard time when started cold
as they have a tendency of flooding the cilinders with feul.
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posted on December 11th, 2005 at 01:21 AM
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lol@pug "v" sud racing
gota love the off the showroom floor handling and go of the 205,has to be one of the best to this day.. then again the sud in its day was a rocket
just a little scary on the twisty stuff, still head to head think the pug will come out on top.....
steff...........................
I've had both. The Pug 205GTI is the best car (still) that I've ever had. Alfa was great fun too but not quite as pliable on the limit. Similar
feeling cars though, but you could only drive the Afa when it was WORKING....... and you had to drive it fast before it rusted..
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"
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posted on December 11th, 2005 at 08:26 AM
hehehe ^
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posted on December 13th, 2005 at 06:50 AM
If you want to stay away from electronics and EFI and keep the rear end light consider a Subaru EA81. Twin port, inlet and exhaust, twin spark heads
are available from http://www.sub4.co.nz. They are made for aircraft but should go well
in a car.
