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 pete wood
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| posted on April 18th, 2005 at 06:50 PM |
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No offence, but for $15k you can buy a great buggy that's already finished and regoed.
Seems quite steep. What the advantages of them over a buggy?
[Edited on 18/4/2005 by pete wood]
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| posted on April 18th, 2005 at 07:16 PM |
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I Guess that 15 K is a bit steep. However The advantages include,
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Fantastic Build quality and design, The fiber glassing is top quality.
The combat has a full sub frame Most buggy's don't,
One of he big advantages over a buggy is a simple one " Doors"
Not to mention how good they look
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| posted on April 18th, 2005 at 07:29 PM |
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They are more functional than a buggy, with the option of a hard or soft top.
There is boot space in the front, and an optional rack on the back. They fit on a full pan, so you also have a back seat.
As for the price, the kit is built in the U S, a good portion of the cost is the freight and government fees and charges.
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| posted on April 18th, 2005 at 08:14 PM |
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Very nice indeed.
real, not plastic! Chrome, chrome and more chrome.
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| posted on April 18th, 2005 at 09:14 PM |
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As for the price, the kit is built in the U S, a good portion of the cost is the freight and government fees and charges.
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I'm not suggesting breaking copyright/patents, but Seagull migt have a point about making copies, just maken legit.
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| posted on April 18th, 2005 at 09:36 PM |
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If you have a look at other products on the market the I think that you will find that the prices are about average, Look at the Sharp built Limo
Buggy -- Turn Key is about $ 25 000 For a base model, Aus Buggy's are about the same, Rhino buggy's start at about $ 40,000 for there replica
Humma.
So take into account things like the Sub frame, Bull bars, and bash plates that are standard, all said and done, it's above Par with other Kits.
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| posted on April 18th, 2005 at 09:47 PM |
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how heavy are these things.
you need to get one going and get it out in the dunes and on the tracks and at the shows. there is little doubt that there's a market for them.
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| posted on April 18th, 2005 at 09:51 PM |
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Reg is not a problem - Basically they are like a MANX
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lol... so it IS a problem
But I like it... like a modern Country Buggy!
[Edited on 18/4/2005 by VWCOOL]
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| posted on April 18th, 2005 at 09:54 PM |
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They weigh about 820 Kg
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| posted on April 18th, 2005 at 10:00 PM |
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so at 820 would you need a sooby motor to compensate the extra weight and wheelbase for off road work/deeep powder sand? two blokes, beer & stuff
and its topped a ton... what tyres fit under the rear guards... 31s, 32s....33s eek.
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| posted on April 18th, 2005 at 10:15 PM |
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In the U S there is a Combat with Th Th Th 35's, Its raised a bit,(But not much) and all the joints are tuffend so it doesn't chew through bearings.
it looks GREAT, The owner runs a turbo subi to push that rubber.
The standard is a 29" to 30" tire,
The standard off roader runs a 1915cc vw engine (@ 100 Hp)
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| posted on April 19th, 2005 at 01:33 PM |
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bagging others
hey pete wood before bagging his price aren't you selling your old buggy for $25,000 let the man say his bit and leave him alone
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| posted on April 19th, 2005 at 01:58 PM |
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Thanks David, Your cheque is in the mail.....
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| posted on April 19th, 2005 at 02:13 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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If you have a look at other products on the market the I think that you will find that the prices are about average,
Look at the Sharp built Limo Buggy -- Turn Key is about $ 25000 For a base model
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Last time I looked GS Limo Kits were about $7000 including barwork dash windscreen etc.
BBA has their prices for everyone to see on their website. http://www.beachbuggy.com.au/
But for the lazy here is a summary of BBA prices.
MAX fx Beach Buggy Shell/Bonnet $3,080.00
Dash – Black $231.00
Dash Frame $275.00
Polished Alloy Windscreen inc Glass $517.00
Lower Frame Screen/Bonnet Rubber $20.00
Body & Bonnet Rubber Seal $55.00
Manual $45.00
Zinc Nuts & Bolts/Sikaflex Kit $90.00
Roll-bar incl base plates (unpadded) $920.00
Front Bar 2.5" dia $440.00
Rear Cage $595.00
Side Bars $535.00
Total $6,803.00
So a beach buggy kit whether is be GSLimo/Sharpbuilt or MaxFX/BBA is about $7000
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So take into account things like the Sub frame, Bull bars, and bash plates that are standard, all said and done, it's above Par with other Kits.
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Above par? or Above price? From my calculations it's about twice the price. Fair enough it's got doors, but $8000 for doors?
A new complete Suzuki Jimny is a bit over $20K and it's finished with a 3 year warranty, is totally new, is easy to insure, and is 4WD.
The jury is still out on this, the people will decide whether they buy or not. But that's my 3 cents.
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| posted on April 19th, 2005 at 02:40 PM |
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Hi Mike just wondering if you can tell us all the price of a TURN KEY buggy from BBA,
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They want $25,000 for there base model and sharp built want $ 24,000 for there one.
So using the same 1600cc engin the turn key combat will be around the same price.
And I dont Think that Suzuki still makes the Jimny....
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| posted on April 19th, 2005 at 02:51 PM |
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Beach buggy's built by GSLimo/Sharp built or MaxFX/BBA are about $7000 for a kit,
and they are also very good quality, and i think that they look great.
The Combat Kit does cost a fair bit more, but I was talking about the Turn Key where they cost about the same.
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| posted on April 19th, 2005 at 02:58 PM |
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I don't know how much a turn key is from BBA. It varies depending on what you want.
I know Sharbbuilt used to do a $16K turnkey based on a 1500 beetle floor pan (Swing axle, BJ) with the standard 1500 motor.
On the other side of the coin, what's the Combat Kit consist of and what's it worth is AUD?
Suzuki still make the Jimny, and now I've looked the base price is $18,000. Look here:
http://www.suzuki.com.au/cars_JIMNY.asp
PS. I think that the Combat is cool and I would drive/own one. Howver, I'm not willing to pay $25K for one.
I'm also not trying to be a pain in the ass here, but you have to be realistic about the competition and how many of these you will be able to sell.
Allot of people on this forum will go "I'd love one of those" or " I'd buy one of those" with no intention of ever going through with the deal.
We're all dreamers.
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| posted on April 19th, 2005 at 03:07 PM |
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What is a Combat anyway? Isn't it a Wombat? Sure looks the same.
http://www.wombatcar.com/photos.html
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| posted on April 19th, 2005 at 03:11 PM |
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We offer Turn Key Offroad Buggies starting at $45 000 
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| posted on April 19th, 2005 at 04:32 PM |
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What is a Combat anyway? Isn't it a Wombat? Sure looks the same.
Yes the people that make the Wombat are making the Combat.
With a few Differences, 1 being a right hand configuration,
and other differences are for the Australian design rules.
The Australian ca is called the COMBAT.
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| posted on April 19th, 2005 at 05:05 PM |
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Well best of luck getting them imported, sold and registered in Australia. I think they would make a great addition to the Australian buggy scene.
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| posted on April 19th, 2005 at 05:41 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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I don't know how much a turn key is from BBA. It varies depending on what you want.
THEY WILL START AT $25,000 WHEN BBA START MAKEING THEM AGAIN
I know Sharbbuilt used to do a $16K turnkey based on a 1500 beetle floor pan (Swing axle, BJ) with the standard 1500 motor.
YES THEY USED TO BE $16,000. NOW THEY ARE $24,000
On the other side of the coin, what's the Combat Kit consist of and what's it worth is AUD?
Fiberglass: Body, Hood, Windshield Frame, and Dash.
Steel: Body Sub-frame, Front & Rear Bumpers, Brush guard, Tire Rack, Top Support Frame, Windshield Frame Sub-frame & all Mounting Hardware
Electrical: Custom Wiring Harness, Full Lighting and Reflector Package, Wiper Motors & Wipers
Hardware: Hinges, Gaskets, Side Mirrors, Mount Brackets, Nuts & Bolts, etc. Most miscellaneous items are included.
Suzuki does still make the Jimny,
However, no new Jimny's have been bought into Melbourne, with other Suzuki Shipments, for Quite some time. ( I work in Shipping, )
I'm also not trying to be a pain in the ass here
OK, THANKS
, but you have to be realistic about the competition and how many of these you will be able to sell.
WITH NO ADVERISING( aussieveedubber excluded ), I HAVE SOLD ONE AND ALMOST A SECOND.
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