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| posted on May 29th, 2012 at 04:09 PM |
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Being a Nationals virgin and coming from along way to attend thought I would tell it how it was and the word that comes to hand is friendly. From the
girl who told me where to park to the girls who took my entry fee ($10.00, very reasonable, including a free booklet) to all the people who answered
by sometimes dumb questions about their cars.
Thanks to you all, got to see that Penrose drag car out in the sunshine with it's body off what a machine, some cool street cars, rats, rods, splits
will put some pics in the events thread tonight.
Best memory, a Herbie replica drove in, Dad, I guess, was standing there holding the hand of his daughter, I guess,
she was jumping up and down saying look dad it's Herbie, priceless!
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| posted on May 29th, 2012 at 05:36 PM |
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"Surprised to see cars driving through the crowds for an early exit. I would've thought it was an OH&S issue to have cars unmarshalled driving
through crowds. I was under the impression there was a set time for cars to depart from within the show unless being marshalled." quote from above
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I was one who left early and had to drive thru the show in my racecar which was unfortunately unavoidable as I had to load the car on the trailer and
then drop my son at the airport before heading home to Brisbane. However, I did have my son and a mate escort me out to ensure no one got in the way
etc. I would have loved to have stayed but such is life. Other than that we had a great time and enjoyed every minute once we had thawed out from
Wakefield.....
Well done Club VW again.....
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Felt for you Amazeer! I think you did a great job given the conditions. To those who gave you a serve, shame on you guys  Without people like Amazeer and the other officials we would not get
a drive at all.
I stood in line for 30 minutes waiting to get proceesed as the guy in front of me didn't have anything filled out or even a clue about how to answer
some questions. I had sent my entry weeks ago and even went to my clubs meeting to prepay my CAMS licence so it took all of 30 seconds to process me.
Maybe a pre-booked queue for next year and a higher "on-the-day" fee will entice people to prebook.
this was my first track outing with the car and despite some engine management issues and hence only completing 8 laps in all I had a ball! see you
there next year, Amazeer send me the 2013 booking form!
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| posted on May 29th, 2012 at 05:57 PM |
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Good WORDS Louieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
yeah the super sprint lines will be stream lined next year for sure
if u get to the counter and its a TOO Hard basket then to the BACK of the other que and wait in line to get served i suggest that Chris will be
doing the too hard cases
if you have pre entered and have all the correct paperwork then you deserve to be on the track ASAP fotr the others
GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER
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| posted on May 29th, 2012 at 06:56 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by badkarmann
My two bobs worth...
Peer judging - I don't think it worked. If you are going to have peer judging then it needs to be consistent and often leads to mates voting for
mates. Would suggest opening watercooled and aircooled so that they can vote for each other or returning to the old method but introducing an
independent body to take the load off the club who are already busy on the day.
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Agree as above plus Music was great, some great cars again, not enough semi dressed girls, ok we will leave that for less family orientated car
shows!
And could someone please tell the judges that a set of shiny new Porsche rims don't constitute a modified vehicle!!!!! No I didn't enter a car this
year.
Also if a car is worthy of top prize again because it's that good, then damn well award it, love does not need to be shared around with a trophy.
Sorry if I offend anyone but feedback was asked for.
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| posted on May 29th, 2012 at 11:45 PM |
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For the past 5 years I have not been able to arrive until noon, due to work. There are never any magazines left at the gate at that point. Each year I
get an excuse why there are no magazines left. If it happened once or twice I would get it, but to happen for 5 years in a row is poor form.
The band seemed to be a pleasant addition.
Cars seemed to be grouped together much better this year.
As I suggest each year, one carpark exclusively for VWs would be nice and make it easier to see everything out there!
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| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 08:57 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by david777
For the past 5 years I have not been able to arrive until noon, due to work. There are never any magazines left at the gate at that point. Each year I
get an excuse why there are no magazines left. If it happened once or twice I would get it, but to happen for 5 years in a row is poor form.
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Hi
PM me your address and I will post you one, or join the club and you will get one in the mail a week earlier.
Steve
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| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 09:30 AM |
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join the club and you will get one 2 weeks before the event
http://www.clubvw.org.au
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| posted on June 2nd, 2012 at 02:42 AM |
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A lot of planning and work gone into a Lame show.
Swap meet should be free or donation towards local charity.
Cars for sale should be admission price.
Show entries should be filtered, no un-categorized, first in, beat up daily drivers there were better cars in the car park.
More activities for both kids and adults.
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| posted on June 2nd, 2012 at 07:19 AM |
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A lot of planning and work gone into a Lame show.
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Ben
Carnt wait to have you on board helping out to FIX the show We need people like you to show us the right direction
more on the toilets n the smell
Apparently they rely on a bacteria to chew away at the bad stuff and this reduces the smell
the Council believes that someone hit them ( the bacteria ) with a strong detergent which killed them off before the show so they didint do there job
hence the strong odour
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| posted on June 2nd, 2012 at 04:32 PM |
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Love the show i have been to each 1 for the last 23 years.
did't go to the first because did'nt live here back then
something that i have noticed .quality of cars improved
people in attendance up.must be doing it right. can't please all of the people all of the time !
Keep up the good work.1 small thing kids not much for them this year .get to stay longer when they are happy !
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| posted on June 2nd, 2012 at 05:02 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by fish26
A lot of planning and work gone into a Lame show.
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Only one person's complained about the show so far and called it Lame.
| Quote: | Cars for sale
should be admission price.
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Cars for sale included entry price. Not bad value when compared to other car sales sites. $30 entry and sell your car fee not bad value.
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be filtered, no un-categorized, first in, beat up daily drivers there were better cars in the car park.
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Maybe the owners of the better cars in the car park should have entered their cars as a show entry. Maybe they didn't want to pay the entry fee or
have people touching their prized possessions.
If you didn't enjoy this year's show, don't turn up next year, oorr, as Dave suggested, get on the committee and have some valuable input as
opposed to poor criticism.
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| posted on June 2nd, 2012 at 05:09 PM |
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Was at Berry and overheard someone saying to a bunch of his mates
why would you paint your car that colour.
dont mind going to see the show but entering to get your pride and joy slagged off .
not the first time either
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| posted on June 2nd, 2012 at 05:23 PM |
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Maybe it's just me, but if it's MY pride and joy, I couldn't give a toss what anyone says about it. I haven't done up my car for them to praise.
They either appreciate what I have done to my own liking, or take a drive off a cliff.
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| posted on June 2nd, 2012 at 05:53 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by t1 time
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posted by 65standard
Maybe it's just me, but if it's MY pride and joy, I couldn't give a toss what anyone says about it. I haven't done up my car for them to praise.
They either appreciate what I have done to my own liking, or take a drive off a cliff.
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 well said , we do our cars for our own enjoyment, people will
knock what thay can't do .
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yes good way to look at it.
did the work myself to suite my taste. not a big budget rebuild. 
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by L469
Was at Berry and overheard someone saying to a bunch of his mates
why would you paint your car that colour.
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i hope that was a visitor to the show and not one of us.
some people are like slinky's
they have no useful purpose
but they are fun to watch
when you push them down the stairs
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| posted on June 2nd, 2012 at 07:21 PM |
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Lame show!!!!!!!!
For some one to make a comment like that must mean their show of equal size is far better organised, I'm sorry I must have missed the memo what date
n address is it on? I'll be their n I'm sure all Club Vee-Dub members can't wait to be shown how its done..........sorry what was his show called
again......dam were is that memo?
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| posted on June 2nd, 2012 at 09:41 PM |
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You don't need to be a top chef to recognise a turd from a truffle
sure his lame comment needed some backing up, but to say that "if he has not got a better one then shut up" is what keeps the car show scene boring
predictable and quite "lame"
been to one nationals you have been to them all..... each year seems to be a carbon copy of the previous
Keeping it real !
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been to one nationals you have been to them all..... each year seems to be a carbon copy of the previous
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OK. Without getting into a slinging match, what would be a better experience without having the same thing at each show?
A car show will have cars.
No matter how customised cars are, they do all start to look the same (slammed, lowered, chromed, etc).
You will have vendors selling things at shows.
There will be kiddies rides, face painting and BBQ's.
Hell, the Easter Show must be the master of carbon copies, but people still flock to it.
I guess people's expectations exceed what is on offer. I would have thought that an annual event such as the VW Nationals would be a time for the VW
community to get together and show off their pride and joys to other VW and non-VW people and get to catch up with one another and share a few yarns.
That's my take on it anyway.
Maybe I'm out of touch with what's in "vogue" at shows, but if snobbery and petulance is going to creep into a show of OLD VW's, no matter how
shiny they are, then I'll give the game away, as there's enough of that attitude without taking it to a show and then slagging off about it.
Life is full of choices. Make one and stick by it.
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| posted on June 3rd, 2012 at 09:18 AM |
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Great day down at the racing and super day in the swap meet and show . Pick up some rare parts . Sold some goodies . Good to see everyone . And we
had a ice cream . MAD
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| posted on June 3rd, 2012 at 09:32 AM |
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Brilliant as always.
Ran into the usual suspects, got some parts, got some toys, got my coffee cup.
As has been said a few times, that siren was getting on my tits.
Well my friends are gone & my hair is grey, I ache in the places where I used to play.
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| posted on June 3rd, 2012 at 09:47 AM |
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always enjoy the show and racing the judging was a good idea to get around the 2hr line up , always leave with a bus full of parts and an empty wallet
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| posted on June 4th, 2012 at 07:53 PM |
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I guess my comment has got some knickers in a knot, an honest blunt opinion none the less also shared by a number of others which I will let comment
on their own if at all.
I really don't need to explain my event organising credentials as I am not questioning anyone else's.
I also don't have any problem with any of the hard working people organising the event who like myself bleed VW blood, I do have a problem with the
constant segregation between clubs and other VW forums, but that's another topic all together.
While not as long as some of the organisers and members of this public forum, I have been a quiet part of our broken VW community for a while and have
seen my fair share of car shows both in Oz and abroad which is on what I am basing My opinion, lets face it without questioning and critique we have
no improvement.
Criticism is hard to take and I also have received my fair share at least I can take it on the chin, analyze and hopefully improve.
Once again, its only my opinion and I don't expect any changes to the show in the near future.
ben
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I dont think that criticism is at all hard to take in fact it was asked for. In professional and recreational life I would be one of my own harshest
critics. I was first to criticise the sprint which imo was the sloppiest of all 4 years and for the most part is my organisation. Its just your
offensive opening line that has peoples knickers knotted.
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You are right, feedback was asked and I give it without pussy footing around, my definition of "Lame" is boring, un-adventerous, prone to censoring
the expressions of others, nothing personal.
Still spewing I didn't get to Wakefield.
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Yes we asked for feedback - that is, we want comments on what you specifically liked and what you didn't, so we know what we can do better or
differently next year. Give us something we can work on. Piss weak comments like 'what a lame show' don't help in this regard. At least now you've
expanded on your insight - 'boring, unadventurous, prone to censoring the expression of others.' Hmm.
How is the Australia's biggest VW show 'boring'? More show cars, and more show categories, and more traders, than any other VW show. What would
you want to see, then, which would make it non-boring? Tappet cover racing? Wet T shirt comp? Hubcap toss? Are you prepared to put your hand up and
organise something like that for next year? If so, welcome along.
How is it 'unadventurous'? You polish up your VW and put it on display for other VW fans to admire. You could win a trophy. If there's something
else you think should happen, then what? If you want adventure and adrenaline, why not go to the Supersprint?
'Prone to censoring the expressions of others' is a totally baseless statement. Here we have specifically asked you for your suggestions and ideas
to make next year's show even better. You are also more than welcome to come along to the next Club meeting (The Greyhound Club, Yagoona, Thursday 21
June, 8pm) and say whatever you want. You can write to the club and I'll print your letter in our magazine. You have never been denied the
opportunity to make comments, so don't you dare imply that you have.
As for segregation, Club Veedub has tried harder than anyone to unite the air and water-cooled groups. We have the same number of trophies for water
as we do for air. We want old AND new VWs to come to all our events. Our club magazine is split about 50-50 on air and water. I agree with you that
there should be no 'us and them' - we are all supposed to be VW fans. What suggestions can you make to improve this further?
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Phil, you asked for feedback and I gave you my opinion without being offensive and personal.
I didn't say you did something wrong just recommended what could be improved on as The biggest VW show should also be the best.
The show has adopted the peer judging suggestion put forward on this forum which is a good start toward improvement, I don't expect you to follow my
recommendations but allow me to have my opinion as I allow you to have yours.
If it wasnt for catching up with friends and seeing a few new cars, the show would be as exiting as the two "VW Nationals" cardboard notice boards
on Smithfield Rd greeting the thousands of motorists.
Ben
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Yes but I asked for USEFUL feedback. Just saying it's 'lame' is unhelpful. So what do we do about it? What suggestions for improvement or new
activities do you have?
Agreed, the peer judging was an excellent change. The watercoolers had used it for a couple of years and it worked well. Our judges were sick of the
work and everyone was sick of the queues and delays it caused. I'm sure we'll stay with peer judging, so thanks to everyone who suggested it. The
only improvement I can think of is not to keep air and water separate - entrants should be able to nominate a favourite car in any category they
wish.
What do you mean by 'you don't expect us to follow your recommendations'? If you come up with a great idea, we would be silly not to go with it. We
are open to all ideas - that's why I started this post. Try us - I am asking for your suggestions - what suggestions for improvement or new
activities do you have?
Catching up with VW friends and looking at the new cars (and old ones too) is precisely the point of having the VW Nationals. Plus to have some fun at
Wakefield Park if you choose. I'm at a loss to understand what else you expect. Again, what alse do you want the show to have???
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May I make a suggestion re. the 'judging'? The form could say something like:-
"The car I would like to take home with me is....................................."
There is no need to give reasons, have categories, or any effort.....just good-old 'feelings'.
My 1c worth.
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If it wasnt for catching up with friends and seeing a few new cars, the show would be as exiting as the two "VW Nationals" cardboard notice boards
on Smithfield Rd greeting the thousands of motorists.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
a well established show for how many years and this is how sydney is notified..
I was thinkign the same thing upon entry, Ben.
I've seen much better years at the show.
All in all, i had fun catching up with my friends but this year seemed to lack its usual excitement. no engine blowup, music was all over the place.
lots of ' hey mate, remember me? vote for my car' stuff going on..
ALSO, there should be some incentive for 1st place winners.. im sure alot more cars would be presented at their best with a prize.
Instead of charging the big sponsors (cvdub, vollks, wolfsburg melb etc ) they should chip in for a store credit prize or something of the likes..
$2000.00 voucher to use instore maybe.
just my opinion, don't take it personal anyone.
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