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posted on November 6th, 2012 at 05:06 PM



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Well I did say to you years ago this was the way to go

Very nice work so far nils

But you have to always consider the prices of stuff compared to the time you spend trying to save money


I have learned this the hard way over the last year or 2 with stuff i am doing.

reflecting on what i have done, i realize now much time and money i lost trying to be smart about it and saving money, sometimes its not worth it.




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posted on November 7th, 2012 at 05:33 AM



I completely know what you mean fellas, this conversion is already stretching out and i just started:crazy: but i like the satisfaction of doing it myself. Plus i hate mechanics, no offence



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posted on November 7th, 2012 at 10:23 AM



I take offence to that comment, Nils you bastard...... :P



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posted on November 7th, 2012 at 07:33 PM



Ha! Funny you should chime in. you and the german autos mob are about the only ones who are allowed to. only place I can't say anything but great things about (great now i sound like i am backpedaling and kissing ass at the same time)

Anyways I promise to get this thread back on track after this weekend




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posted on November 10th, 2012 at 06:47 PM



As I have been promising, I'm trying to get this build back on track. Work and life is just too much sometime, think I need a holiday just to work on the bug.
Guess the biggest learning curve has been TIG, it's not anything like MIG, can't just rip in and deal withh the imperfections. Along with co-odinating two arms and a leg, YIKES! Think also the fact I started with .040 stainless not sure has helped. I built a quick welding trolley out of scrap first of all, its not all done but new add ons are coming every day . Actually managed to find a mob that sells gas bottles instead of renting them, which is great.
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Guess the biggest thing that I have learn't is. CLEAN, CLEAN AND CLEAN SOME MORE!!! and preparation it's really hard to fill in gaps with a TIG. As you will be able to see in the photos a very small amount of impurity turns your weld into poo real quick (so I'm not sure if tig welding a sump is a top idea to begin with) maybe new time I would boil it to get all the oil out of it? because the parts washer just was not enough. Who was it that ask not so long ago why no one post pictures of bad welds?
Some turn out pretty well
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others, . . . . . . . . .not so much
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But all in all I have a finished sump that doesn't leak, well the second time around anyways. I ended up putting 2 baffles inside after way too many stories of starvtion. I thought I would be abit of a smart arse while putting stiffeners on the outside to protect the bottom, but the .040 thou has a bad habit of moving out of the way when ever it is heated, even while clamped! So.. . . . . .just ended up a bit ugly.
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Also did the suction pipe, with no problems
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I have been reassessing the rear wing, think it is too complicated and will cause problems. I will be going back to a drag style wing, solid mounted. Made a few patterns today
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speaking of patterns, here is the one for the sump incase anybody wants to use the design
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One of few difficult pionts I found while building the sump is the that the area around the dipstick is brazed in. I cut it out along with the brazing and then welded it back in afterwards

Moving on I welding the first of the exhaust manifold headers, the 1.6mm material is ALOT friendlier to weld. Not sure on the hieght yet, Is there a thermostate housing I can use to change the direction of the water hose at the bottom?
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posted on November 10th, 2012 at 07:09 PM



The turbo thermostat housings are at 90 degrees to the NA ones.



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posted on November 11th, 2012 at 12:03 PM



Thanks mackeymanx, that is exactly what i wanted to here. bought one off ebay already this morning



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posted on November 18th, 2012 at 08:03 PM



Got the other side header done this weekend, the new thermostate housing hasn't turned up yet but the bottom is looking like an engine again. Turned the engine over again and played with the intake alittle. The plan at the moment is, instead of turning the throttle body at 180 degrees straight up the centerline, Ive gone to the side somewhat and hope to use the subaru intake hose and airbox while keeping it with in area of the engine. I'm not sure whether this is the right idea, but being able to use the stock parts does save a few dollars and all the right breathers are avalible, so in my mind seems right at the moment (that said there are only a few tac welds holding the thing together) Am very interested in feedback on this set up, good or bad
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I had a bit of spare time at work friday arvo, (well actually there was a problem with one of the jets and wasn't allowed to leave till the damn thing was in the air ) so I spent my time turning those cardboard templates to something abit more presentable

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posted on November 18th, 2012 at 08:08 PM



A wing on a baja....are you mad ??? :lol:



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posted on November 18th, 2012 at 11:57 PM



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posted on November 19th, 2012 at 04:47 AM



It adds 50hp doesn't it?



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posted on November 24th, 2012 at 04:20 PM



mackey manx was right, :D

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posted on November 24th, 2012 at 05:26 PM



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A wing on a baja....are you mad ??? :lol:


Not as mad as putting the radiator at the rear :crazy: :lol:




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posted on November 27th, 2012 at 09:37 AM



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A wing on a baja....are you mad ??? :lol:


Not as mad as putting the radiator at the rear :crazy: :lol:


not as mad as having a Chinese type 1 engine in there :crazy:




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posted on January 3rd, 2013 at 04:43 PM



Mate that is very nice work
I really like your Invert manifold so you can use the factory airbox
How far have you got now




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posted on January 4th, 2013 at 06:26 AM



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Mate that is very nice work
I really like your Invert manifold so you can use the factory airbox
How far have you got now


Thanks terry, hope it fits like that

buying alot of parts, measuring half a million little brackets. pondering new brakes, wheels, heater and fuel tank.
this is turning into a rebuild instead of an upgrade :crazy:

that and my computer went belly up, so can only post on my phone, so i have to decide between spending money on it or the baja. no brainer right?

Otherwise, its summer. I still use the baja most days, which reminds me i should go and clean it




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posted on January 4th, 2013 at 06:27 AM



Oh! Forgot to ask, anyone know offhand what kind of rpm the ole ej22 liberty does on the highway?



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posted on January 4th, 2013 at 08:16 AM



Paul's Manx with 091 and 32's was doing about 3000rpm give or take



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posted on January 4th, 2013 at 09:27 AM



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Oh! Forgot to ask, anyone know offhand what kind of rpm the ole ej22 liberty does on the highway?


My auto Liberty donor was doing 2900 at 100, manuals are probably a touch lower
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posted on January 4th, 2013 at 06:39 PM



Sweet thanks guys, hoping to order gearbox kit in the next few weeks and am still up in the air about ratios. I want the 4.86 but was alittle worried about over reving it. figure I should get alittle over 2800 at 100 km/h



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posted on January 4th, 2013 at 09:20 PM



go for a drive in a subaru, most 4 cylinder cars rev around 3000rpm in top,



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posted on January 14th, 2013 at 07:38 PM



Nils did you modify the standard baffle in the sump so you can fit/remove sump with the short modified pickup ?
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posted on January 15th, 2013 at 05:11 AM



You're right bone, forgot about that. only a tiny corner you need to remove.
will get a photo this arvo




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posted on January 15th, 2013 at 11:31 AM



Cool. Just occurred to me when I was cutting mine down the other day. Haven't worked out my final shape as yet, but final total depth will be 100mm to get inside rear cage and bash plate.
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posted on January 15th, 2013 at 06:12 PM



So turns out i was wrong, definatly thought i did cut the baffle, but no. When putting it on you have to approach from an angle (lowed at the pulley side) and then drop it into place.

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posted on February 24th, 2013 at 05:25 PM



So I've been trying to get this thread up and moving again in the last few weeks, but I just don't seem to find the half hour to sit down and think of what to write.

I will start with the spendings,
exhaust pipe and catalytic converter - $248
external oil filter set, hose and fittings - $187
cooling system header tank - $48
bottle of argon - $120
gauges - $205
hoses of all shapes and sizes - $108

total to date - $1703


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I finally have this bracket just about finished and am happy with the fit and placement of the airbox
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Have been spending alittle time on the fuel tank, ended up with 70ltrs. Just have the baffles filler and drain to finish and then weld it up :D
this is a free bee so far because it's made from scrap at work
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the reverse manifold is all ready to go
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also bought some gauges from speed hut again over christmas while they where on sale. The fuel gauge is cool because it is programmable to any sender, the second fuel gauge belongs to my brothers missus car
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And lastly, I relocated the taillights and numberplate to make room for this wing
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I really had hoped to make this build a bit more detailed but I really am not finding the time




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posted on April 14th, 2013 at 05:50 AM



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posted on April 14th, 2013 at 07:08 PM



I knew it would only be a matter of time before someone called me out on this.

There has been a slight change in plan. The whole point of putting the subi engine and box into the baja was to make it more user friendly on trips (because it is sooo damn loud) but what I have noticed though the few trips we have done this summer. The REAL problem is space, 2 people plus camping gear and a dog that just doesn't spot growing has no place in a beetle.
As a result I bought a combi to do trips in and the baja will go back to being a toy car. As luck would have it the combi I bought had a corvair motor in it and that will after a bit of love find its way into the beetle and the subi engine and box that I have been prepping will end up in the combi instead.

Can I call that an update? but this thing is still happening, just not in a beetle sorry




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