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| posted on June 7th, 2006 at 10:16 AM |
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Thats right they always leave one drive flange off as its part of the cv
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| posted on August 8th, 2006 at 07:10 PM |
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hate to bring up an old thread but i beliece the UN5 is the better box steve, and these were used in the lotus esprits.
Anthony
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| posted on August 9th, 2006 at 02:09 AM |
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what about the audi boxes there used in gt40 reps and there might be enough room to rotate the diff centre.I,ve been told subie auto boxes have the
room to rotate the diff.
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| posted on August 9th, 2006 at 02:10 AM |
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get a G50 and be done with it
any one have one for sale ?
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| posted on August 9th, 2006 at 02:12 AM |
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got a 915
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| posted on August 9th, 2006 at 02:58 AM |
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g50 = too much money to really justify seeings as at end of day its still a stock ratiod box..
Anthony
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| posted on August 15th, 2006 at 11:44 PM |
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What have ratios got to do with anything. Its got porsche ratios remember. Its also made to take good hp, thats teh only reason people look at them.
Aparently you cannot help look at them they are that big.
What ratios are you looking for anthony??? If you have a turbo, please tell me you're not considering a close ratio box...tall..tall is what you
need, as boost is your best friend and likes legs not changes. Even with a lbug 3.88 I am looking at taller 4th, and the rest are perfect.
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 12:06 AM |
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anthony there more ratio,s for a porsche box than you can point a stick at.the reno box,s are very long from the centre of the drive shaft to the
seleter end of the box.if your looking at 200kw @ the wheels + porsche box and support the motor as porsche do in the 911 don,t have all the weight
hanging of the gearbox which will twist the box and screw your gears.
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 12:10 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 71superbug
hate to bring up an old thread but i beliece the UN5 is the better box steve, and these were used in the lotus esprits.
Anthony
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Hi Anthony
Maybe they are a great gearbox, but where can you buy one?
As for G50 ratios, this is what I have, sorry its in MPH, they look good for a turbo to me.
Steve
G50 ratios mph
25.315 trye
3.5 2.058 1.409 1.074 .861
1800 11.26 19.16 27.98 36.71 45.79
2000 12.52 21.28 31.09 40.79 50.88
2200 13.77 23.41 34.20 44.86 55.96
2400 15.02 25.54 37.31 48.94 61.05
2600 16.27 27.67 40.41 53.02 66.14
2800 17.52 29.80 43.52 57.10 71.23
3000 18.77 31.93 46.63 61.18 76.31
3200 20.02 34.06 49.74 65.26 81.40
3400 21.28 36.18 52.85 69.34 86.49
3600 22.53 38.31 55.96 73.41 91.58
3800 23.78 40.44 59.07 77.49 96.66
4000 25.03 42.57 62.18 81.57 101.75
4200 26.28 44.70 65.29 85.65 106.84
4400 27.53 46.83 68.39 89.73 111.93
4600 28.79 48.95 71.50 93.81 117.01
4800 30.04 51.08 74.61 97.89 122.10
5000 31.29 53.21 77.72 101.96 127.19
5200 32.54 55.34 80.83 106.04 132.28
5400 33.79 57.47 83.94 110.12 137.36
5600 35.04 59.60 87.05 114.20 142.45
5800 36.29 61.73 90.16 118.28 147.54
6000 37.55 63.85 93.27 122.36 152.63
KPH 60.45 102.79 150.16 196.99 245.73
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 12:20 AM |
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porsche used a 4 speed G50 in the 930 turbos so they could stretch their legs ,hard box to find though.a 915 can handle 500hp with the right setup.
what is the point a having all the power in the world and to scared to put it to the road whether its ej20t or hipo vw.
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 12:45 AM |
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Hi
Found a metric conversion for my G50
G50 ratios kph
25.315 tyre (235/45x17 ) 3.44 final drive
1st 3.5 2nd 2.058 3rd 1.409 4th 1.074 5th .861
1800 18.12 30.84 45.04 59.10 73.72
2000 20.15 34.26 50.05 65.67 81.91
2200 22.16 37.69 55.06 72.22 90.09
2400 24.18 41.11 60.06 78.79 98.29
2600 26.19 44.54 65.06 53.02 106.48
2800 28.20 47.97 70.06 91.93 114.68
3000 30.21 51.40 75.07 98.49 122.85
3200 32.23 54.83 80.08 105.06 131.04
3400 34.26 59.42 85.08 111.63 139.24
3600 36.27 61.67 90.09 118.19 147.44
3800 38.28 65.10 96.11 124.75 155.62
4000 40.29 68.53 100.10 131.32 163.81
4200 42.31 71.96 105.11 137.89 172.01
4400 44.32 75.39 110.10 144.46 180.20
4600 46.35 78.80 115.11 151.03 188.38
4800 48.36 82.23 120.12 157.60 196.42
5000 50.37 85.66 125.12 164.15 204.77
5200 51.52 89.04 130.13 170.72 212.97
5400 54.40 92.52 135.14 177.29 221.14
5600 56.41 95.95 140.15 183.86 229.34
5800 58.42 99.38 145.15 190.43 237.53
6000 60.45 102.79 150.16 196.99 245.73KPH
Stock 3.88 = 50 92 148 201
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 01:20 AM |
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thats different ratios that i saw last time i looked steve. i think i saw somewhere that g50's had a 2. something final drive. which would probably
be a bit tall. but i must have been given the wrong info. those ratios look pretty good.
and as far as diff ratios for porsche boxes go im sure there are heaps but they cost the price of most peoples cars.
and i had the number of a palce that imports the un5's for about 2 grand i think.
i will have a look see if i can find it again..
Anthony
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 03:19 AM |
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anthony also try Citroen,s they might use the same box.
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 08:49 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by malcolm
porsche used a 4 speed G50 in the 930 turbos so they could stretch their legs ,hard box to find though.a 915 can handle 500hp with the right setup.
what is the point a having all the power in the world and to scared to put it to the road whether its ej20t or hipo vw.
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No, Porsche use the four-speed because the then-current five-speed (1970s) couldn't take the torque
Good point about having all that power and no way to use it - the gearbox is usually the weakest link!
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 02:30 PM |
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Okay I have a small question:
The single side plate boxes, did they ONLY come out in L Bugs?
If so, woo hoo I have an L Bug box in my '72 already!
I'm assuming they only came out in L's.
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 03:33 PM |
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gues that means it's time for an EJ20T. 
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 03:57 PM |
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Thats makes 12
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 04:16 PM |
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vwcool if that is the case why didn,t they just build a 5 speed G50 from the start.at that time their 911 boxes weren,t strong enough and the 901 box
wasn,t much stronger than a single side plate L bug box.
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 05:19 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Okay I have a small question:
The single side plate boxes, did they ONLY come out in L Bugs?
If so, woo hoo I have an L Bug box in my '72 already!
I'm assuming they only came out in L's.
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Hi
Late Type 3s had them as well, and they had a 4.125 final drive rather than the L bugs 3.88
Anthony, you may have seen my old 3.88 box ratios quoted earlier.
Steve
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 05:49 PM |
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Thanks guys.
And Pete, if that comment about it being time for an EJ20T was for me, I agree which is why I've started the conversion.
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| posted on August 16th, 2006 at 10:13 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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vwcool if that is the case why didn,t they just build a 5 speed G50 from the start.at that time their 911 boxes weren,t strong enough and the 901 box
wasn,t much stronger than a single side plate L bug box.
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Dunno! I'm just explaining why there was no five-speed in the original 930. Too much torque.
Wouldn't it be good if we could turn the diff around in a WRX box so it could run five forward speeds rather than five reverses!... :cry
[ Edited on 16-8-2006 by VWCOOL ]
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