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 Boostn
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| posted on February 26th, 2010 at 10:16 PM |
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Shit,
not good.
what's the plan, engineer it now?
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| posted on February 27th, 2010 at 12:21 AM |
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Hi Dave and Co.
I am back online after heading off for work straight after portland.
Had a great time, and the car started to work well. Just learning how to launch with the turbo motor. Starting to get the idea at last. Quickest
time was 7.8 and fastest was just over 90mph.
I did at least 8/10 better than I had previously in the 1/8 and I didn't do a decent run the whole weekend.
Niggly little gremlins came out, and most are now shaken out. You know what is like, get rid of one, and find another.
Interesting comment about the torsion bars but do consider that I am running 30mm new sway-aways now with QA1's and swayaway springplates with JCL
retainers. I think I launched in the photo here at around 4500 rpm. Still got 4k left to play with here. The QA1's are on a light setting, they
will need to get stiffened a bit more for next time out.
It is a heavy car especially compared to Ross's.
Missed not seeing you there this year Dave, I am hoping to go nth later this year to join the fun.
I am looking forward to getting back to the 1/4.
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| posted on February 27th, 2010 at 02:17 AM |
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Shit,
not good.
what's the plan, engineer it now?
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Back to stock height... 60mm beam, stock spindles, wide 5 discs on the front, stock smoothies with 165's all round, bumpers back on, carpet and then
I'll give it a shot.... Everything else works a treat.... If they find more issues, I guess the POS will become a full-time racer.... We'll see....
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| posted on February 27th, 2010 at 09:17 AM |
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Dear "DANGEROUS"Dave...yes a picture paints a thousand words.Yes axle squat ia a dangerous area for the driveline to reside in.One thing in the
"DOG'S favour is those sway away axles of mine are the old good steel type.Henry generously lent me those 28s to try as it was our best option at
the time & it is quite obvious that they are inadequate let alone put them on a 100% traction track where the problem will worsen.I will say this
whilst the rear is going down the steering department is still in existence & the car lacks the dreaded violence that it had initially at
Willowbank.The stiffer the rear the more higher the frontal air gap will become!!!The car's energy is being absorbed on the "squat" which is good
for clutch & diff preservation but an obstacle for good 60 footers.I have to find the compromise point now as the car is so directional & easy
to pilot.Regards/well wishes..Ross-"OLD DOG"
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| posted on February 27th, 2010 at 01:14 PM |
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I like the avatar Ross.
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i always thought since we are rhd, the driver weighing the right side down and the motor spins that way also, the lhd would be better for drag racing
as i imagine it would help even up the load. ,,,,,,,,,really enjoyed seeing all the pics . thanks greg
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 11:54 AM |
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i always thought since we are rhd, the driver weighing the right side down and the motor spins that way also, the lhd would be better for drag racing
as i imagine it would help even up the load. ,,,,,,,,,really enjoyed seeing all the pics . thanks greg
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hi Greg,
While the engine DOES rotate clock wise, the REACTION FORCE is actually reduced a little by he driver being on the RHS.
If the engine ws front mounted it wouls help to have the driver on the LHS.
I think in this instance it is just that the drivers weight(between 80 to 100kg) is transfered to the rear,
and it shows slightly.
My car is about 1/2" higher on the RHS to compensate.
This equated to less than 2 degrees of spring plate angle.
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 12:55 PM |
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i always thought since we are rhd, the driver weighing the right side down and the motor spins that way also, the lhd would be better for drag racing
as i imagine it would help even up the load. ,,,,,,,,,really enjoyed seeing all the pics . thanks greg
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hi Greg,
While the engine DOES rotate clock wise, the REACTION FORCE is actually reduced a little by he driver being on the RHS.
If the engine ws front mounted it wouls help to have the driver on the LHS.
I think in this instance it is just that the drivers weight(between 80 to 100kg) is transfered to the rear,
and it shows slightly.
My car is about 1/2" higher on the RHS to compensate.
This equated to less than 2 degrees of spring plate angle.
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My god.... The science is astounding!
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 07:42 PM |
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some vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QTMMjfYuC8
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 07:48 PM |
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Thanks Rose!!
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 08:23 PM |
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Thanks Rose
Reub
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| posted on March 1st, 2010 at 10:10 AM |
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Here is a quick vid of some action taken , 2 vid not loaded yet ( to-night )working on a race report for my web site too (this week-end )
Can see how my car likes the extra grunt ! You can see Rodney hitting centre guard for tree then turning into other wall .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmzruTOJ_zw
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| posted on March 1st, 2010 at 11:49 AM |
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COOOOOOOL!!
Did rodney's steering wheel come off?
Lucky the damage to car and driver was minimal and he was able to keep racing.
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| posted on March 1st, 2010 at 12:54 PM |
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Nice work there Pete.... I think Rodney broke a tierod end Dave..... Very lucky is was at the 'slow' end of the race!!!!
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| posted on March 1st, 2010 at 01:32 PM |
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the camera man didn't do to bad a job.good to see you edited out all the swearing.lol.
come on pagey were's the 10.
down sharon.
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| posted on March 1st, 2010 at 06:48 PM |
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the camera man didn't do to bad a job.good to see you edited out all the swearing.lol.
come on pagey were's the 10.
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Crikey Lisa doesn't swear......ohhhh was the cameraman you Westi. Good job mate.
Great vid Pete, thanks, cars sound bloody great. 
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| posted on March 1st, 2010 at 09:41 PM |
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Great shots there Pete, thanks. It's always great to see what the car's doing off the line. I really ejoyed lining up alongside you in SHRAPNEL.
In that run I pulled the big red eye yet agian -.078 to your .048, slick!!! Looks like I need to stiffen the compression on those shocks a tad. 27mm
bars are still taking a pounding!
Overall we had a great weekend for the first time out in the car.
Saturday: 1st run; RT .313, 60ft 1.571, MPH 90.36, ET 7.269
2nd run; RT -.056, 60ft 1.570, MPH 85.71, ET 7.551 ( missed shift to 3rd)
Sunday: 1st run: RT.162, 60ft 1.542, MPH 93.95, ET 7.170 (richened main jet)
2nd run: RT .047, 60ft 1.600, MPH 94.34, ET 7.253 (against Mike Kristen for a win)
3rd run: RT -.210, 60ft 1.644, MPH 93.75, ET 7.300
4th run: RT -.078, 60ft 1.610, MPH 93.36, ET 7.337(against Peter Page)
5th run: RT -.114, 60ft 1.574, MPH 94.54, ET 7.200 (on a 7.200 dial in, damned red eye agian against Ross!)
Thanks again to Craig for a great weekend; cheers
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Great results David, heard how good your car was. Well done
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| posted on March 1st, 2010 at 10:11 PM |
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Nice little wheels up each time Pete!!
I like it 
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| posted on March 1st, 2010 at 10:23 PM |
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Nice little wheels up each time Pete!!
I like it
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Marcus next time you drive past me at work give me a wave!! I saw you go past in the ute last week along Abbotsford rd past the big car wash!! I'll
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Great shots there Pete, thanks. It's always great to see what the car's doing off the line. I really ejoyed lining up alongside you in SHRAPNEL.
In that run I pulled the big red eye yet agian -.078 to your .048, slick!!! Looks like I need to stiffen the compression on those shocks a tad. 27mm
bars are still taking a pounding!
Overall we had a great weekend for the first time out in the car.
Saturday: 1st run; RT .313, 60ft 1.571, MPH 90.36, ET 7.269
2nd run; RT -.056, 60ft 1.570, MPH 85.71, ET 7.551 ( missed shift to 3rd)
Sunday: 1st run: RT.162, 60ft 1.542, MPH 93.95, ET 7.170 (richened main jet)
2nd run: RT .047, 60ft 1.600, MPH 94.34, ET 7.253 (against Mike Kristen for a win)
3rd run: RT -.210, 60ft 1.644, MPH 93.75, ET 7.300
4th run: RT -.078, 60ft 1.610, MPH 93.36, ET 7.337(against Peter Page)
5th run: RT -.114, 60ft 1.574, MPH 94.54, ET 7.200 (on a 7.200 dial in, damned red eye agian against Ross!)
Thanks again to Craig for a great weekend; cheers
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Hi Dave,
great debut!
Is that your old engine from the red car,
or a whole new deal (except carbs instead of EFI)?
If so, it is freat to see what weight reduction can do!
Huge improvement changing the main jet on Sunday!
Good work!
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Hey David C
great weekend, was really impressed with your car, considering you told me you were going to take it easy lol, I love the pin striping.. very old
school.
I ment to ask you were the the head lights air brushed or stick ons and who did them?
My weekend wasn't the best as I broke the cluth release fork Michael Clark
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Henry our weather man , said Saturday was 2700 ft around 20% water and Sunday was 1700ft , about the same water % .
Good to see David C that you ran some nice numbers what jetting did you run . I had Rods motor richen up from 190 (dyno) to 205 main jets . Running
tyres at 17 to 18 lbs trying to spin tyre alittle ,also good for tranny too .
Allmotor guys did real well over week-end . Great race to david, more seat time will help those cherrys ( Thats what I should do , after giving rod
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To.......David O'Connor.SHRAPNEL debut must having certainly provided you with a huge reward of satisfaction.
I was lucky enough to be drawn against you & see how busy the OLD DOG was to catch you when you did a
7.2 on a 7.2 @ 94.54mph...on a minus 114 red light.....being paired up against an old fart like me should not have
rattled your nerves !!!You have to stretch the tree to learn the tightropes. The OLD DOG that run did a 6.96@
102.51mph & your new ride appeared strong from inside my cab.We have found the indicated rev limit is 500rpm
short & now we will be able to stretch the DOG'S hind legs.Anyway well done Dave. Your little girl was well into it
as was your wife which was great..
Congatulations,kind regards & well wishes..Ross.
ps I bet you have more of a chance of forgetting your red light than PAGEY has of forgetting his !!!!!
pps Wasn't that good of "DANGEROU'S "Dave Butler to provide me with a shot of his girlfiend to use for my avatar
...he always looks after his mates !!!
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I wish!!(even though she is a cartoon).
Do'C, will remember that I was rattled on our first round at portland last year.
Red light and missed shift, was because i was thinking about pussy instead of racing.
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| posted on March 2nd, 2010 at 03:21 PM |
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I was talking about my pet cat if you were confused.
(not)
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DAVE..sack the cat as they are too high maintenance...at least a good girl will shout !!!
Then again a good pet gets more happier to see you the later you are !!!Now isn't that the truth.
Ross...ps please don't send Pagey any red globes in the post....he needs to heal !!!
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David O'- congratulations on a beautifullly presented and sucessful Volkswagen!!!. Remember, Red lights are OK and needed (but only in time
trials)
Pete, ever the professional, looked great, went hard (look forward to racing you sometime)
Ross, maybe a to-do list on the dashboard will help? (I've got one I can loan you)
Rod, the terms "go straight and go hard" can be used together . Excellent job and the win to boot!!!
To everyone else racing at Portland, good to see so many of you out there, racing and having fun, gaining experience, knowledge and supporting the
marque
Craig and the rest of the organisers - job well done!!!
Mike and Darrin - proud to be associated with you
Hanging around the CBB stable reminds me of a musical saying I adhered to in a life long past "Play it loud OK?"
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Dave you got it , this is the old 2276 motor from my red "street " Beetle. It was in moth balls for around 4 years (?) while we worked on the big
motor. The 2386 has failed in 3 out of 3 outings with flat cam and lifter issues!!!
You might recall the Street Eliminator Heads; both you and Brownie must have got sick of the sight of them over the years with the amount of work you
put into them: THANKS, it's finally paying off! This motor is now running IDA's instead of the injection and making much more power with the
changeover! I still can't work this out, I was always a strong believer in EFI ???
Pete on Sunday we changed the main jet to a 200, dyno was a 195.
Michael the headlights are indeed stickers. I took a photo of the lenses in my other Beetle and got Jon Kruger to print a sticker up for me. I'm
sure he can print more if you want a set.
Ross it was a real treat lining up along side you I look forward to a second chance!!
Henry it's amazing how quickly this car reacts off the line . Much quicker than my porky 69 Beetle! I'll be using this as my excuse for the red
eyes.
Now where's the closest 1/4 mile track. It looks like another interstate trip. Damn those SA politicians
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You might recall the Street Eliminator Heads; both you and Brownie must have got sick of the sight of them over the years with the amount of work you
put into them: THANKS, it's finally paying off! This motor is now running IDA's instead of the injection and making much more power with the
changeover! I still can't work this out, I was always a strong believer in EFI ???
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EFI should be easier to tune,
but you are always going to struggle to beat the atomisation
that a ram tube full of standoff can give.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZEA5J7e9E8&feature=channel
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