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posted on May 28th, 2013 at 07:46 PM



was hoping these were goin to arrive b4 nats but no luck. hopefully these will sort out the hectic toe in on it an save the tyres a bit!

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/2364F681-C45A-4AC8-AC65-F88C0A78CED6-5342-0000046EB129D78F_zpsc0414c4e.jpg

thanks jerry. now to install them
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posted on May 28th, 2013 at 08:54 PM



Cant wait to see these fitted up, and let us know how they go/improve the toe in issue.

were they expensive to bring in and time frame?




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posted on May 28th, 2013 at 09:00 PM



So, spell the beans on your engine temp drops !



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posted on May 29th, 2013 at 06:04 AM



The plates were here in a week, not super cheap to ship but for what they are worth it! Not a light item...

Haha, sorry craig. On the road an it was runnin a tad hot an started to play up, installed the boot jack from craig an dropped 20degrees. Then didnt skip a beat the whole way. Could be other issues involved but the temp is somethin ill look into now make sure it's all how it should be. 20degrees is a significant drop! Thanks again mate for the jack.
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posted on June 1st, 2013 at 07:27 PM



finally got a minute 2 do some shit. changed my fucked starter on the panel to another fucked one. not happy...
then got into the plates
original
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/7EE0CE6C-4AF9-490F-AE17-0EB5E81D8AD4-9156-000008F20E9DC05E_zpsddca8de0.jpg

spot the difference?
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/92EA1BFF-23DB-4711-A915-43487F7E80F1-9156-000008F21562CBE9_zpsf266494f.jpg

doesnt look right
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/EF94618F-8E6B-4313-A662-0AEB1EF55462-9156-000008F21C7ACA27_zpsa26e680d.jpg

installed
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/01FA831B-8A7D-4BBF-A52A-E03B0A34A309-9156-000008F2337EBA0D_zpsfde17079.jpg

lower an straighter wheel. no more toe in!!!!
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/EAF6A37A-29B0-42CD-9623-13C0D6FDE140-9156-000008F23ABF299B_zps83ccbef8.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/6A7D09E4-15F4-4CCB-9FC0-12102439A50C-9156-000008F24177C18E_zpsb373359e.jpg

will make the world of difference thanks Jerry @ jer*fab for the plates! onto the other one 2moro
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posted on June 2nd, 2013 at 07:20 PM



new day an finally got around to gettin into the drivers side.
starts
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/01935D84-71B3-4AE7-88AA-379AA7CA8B7C-10068-00000A159D16B68B_zps85136800.jpg

nearly
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/72727730-9B8B-4412-8330-221DEFBC438B-10068-00000A15A7F56AFF_zps6c5edaf0.jpg

an done
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/E237A64A-6F34-4EAB-BF7D-FC84CC3A770C-10068-00000A15B0E52FB1_zps7fce2f45.jpg

stupid weather while doin it too... dedication in my hi viz rain suit
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/E237A64A-6F34-4EAB-BF7D-FC84CC3A770C-10068-00000A15B0E52FB1_zps7fce2f45.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/812D8B4E-F4B0-4095-BCAF-0D2CA9142098-10068-00000A15F297D683_zpsc7b11f8d.jpg

took it for a run to settle it in.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/0DFC960A-5216-4D02-B512-7EAE6AE8693B-10068-00000A15D704BB9E_zpsf1c6d337.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/B805E101-E7D9-428F-8010-1993151420E2-10068-00000A15EB059131_zps85509515.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/BE711744-D043-4AB2-AEF5-63A486AEF8E9-10068-00000A15C9558986_zpsde497a11.jpg

much better an straighter wheels
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posted on June 2nd, 2013 at 07:26 PM



So they are the 4 inch drops ?



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posted on June 2nd, 2013 at 08:03 PM



4" but size doesnt matter craig


or does it?

well, theres nothin wrong with been below average is there?

is there?????
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posted on June 3rd, 2013 at 03:03 PM



Would this work the other way around ...
Or should i say it ...
IF YOU WANTED TO RAISE the car ... like a beach buggy, to get more clearance
???????
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posted on June 3rd, 2013 at 07:44 PM



I hear what ur sayin but don't quite understand. Raise? Like upwards? Towards the sky?
I'm afraid of heights so have my cars low. Haha..

I guess u could do it but the positive camber could prove to be a bit dangerous on swing axle
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posted on June 3rd, 2013 at 09:25 PM



That's a cracking ride dion
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posted on June 4th, 2013 at 10:43 AM



Could I ask how these work (sorry for the noob like question, just want to get my head around them)

I'm two splines on the outter lowered in the rear of my bug and the height looks the same.

Do you install these at the regular height spline and then the drop in the spring plate adds the drop? Are there any benefits to drop plates over extended plates that sre rotated on the splines?

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posted on June 4th, 2013 at 01:13 PM



Allboners, you can run them in stock position so u get the full travel ride like stock height but with ur car lowered.
It also eliminates some toe in with them been stock length with the 4" drop.
When u notch an lower standard plates that arnt lengthened or have elongated holes, if u watch the way they sit they arc upward pushing ur wheel towards the front of the guard more causing some toe in an camber which will chew out ur tyres quicker. With these at "stock" length they eliminate the toe in so it's like stock only with the camber an lowness..
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posted on June 4th, 2013 at 02:37 PM



Looks Sweet Dude!!



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posted on June 4th, 2013 at 03:37 PM



One of my favourite Bugs! Thrilled to hear you bagged a Trophy at The Nationals.
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posted on June 4th, 2013 at 07:15 PM



Thanks fabo, was good to catch up at bens wedding too, won't be long till urs is fixed again.

Zoofish, was a surprise to win too. Wasnt expecting it that's for sure.

Jerry, thanks again for the plates. Awesome mate!
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posted on June 4th, 2013 at 11:05 PM



Looks good Dion. How's the ride now? How much $$$ are they?
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posted on June 5th, 2013 at 09:27 AM



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Allboners, you can run them in stock position so u get the full travel ride like stock height but with ur car lowered.
It also eliminates some toe in with them been stock length with the 4" drop.
When u notch an lower standard plates that arnt lengthened or have elongated holes, if u watch the way they sit they arc upward pushing ur wheel towards the front of the guard more causing some toe in an camber which will chew out ur tyres quicker. With these at "stock" length they eliminate the toe in so it's like stock only with the camber an lowness..
Hope that makes sense


Yeh that makes peferfect sense. Basically all of the cool factor and no loss of "comfort".

Would 4" be equivalant to 2 splines on the outter? OR would that be closer to 3".

I lowered without extending or elongating and It's something I have been meaning to address... Thinking this may be the way.

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posted on June 5th, 2013 at 07:43 PM



joesbuell, they were 285 landed in oz. all fresh steel no core exchange or anything. outright.

allbones, depending on how low u go too will depend on all the toe in an other suspension geometry too, the drop on the spline adjustment would also depend on how ur rubbers are, the worn the rubbers the more play so could be 3-4" but if u have new rubbers it wont be as low obviously.
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posted on June 5th, 2013 at 09:57 PM



I reckon we should do a group buy on the spring plates :tu:;)



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posted on June 11th, 2013 at 06:49 AM



Yeah let me know if you dudes wanna group deal!



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posted on June 11th, 2013 at 08:28 AM



Iv had a set on my bug i did 3 inch and one outer spline was good.they are great quality.
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posted on June 14th, 2013 at 06:28 PM



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Cant wait to see these fitted up, and let us know how they go/improve the toe in issue.

were they expensive to bring in and time frame?
I ordered a set today cost $306 AUD delivered spewing about the aussie dollar right now but that always happens when I need something from the states.




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posted on June 14th, 2013 at 07:03 PM



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Cant wait to see these fitted up, and let us know how they go/improve the toe in issue.

were they expensive to bring in and time frame?
I ordered a set today cost $306 AUD delivered spewing about the aussie dollar right now but that always happens when I need something from the states.



cheers.. not to bad on cost. let me now how they go when you fit them up.




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Cant wait to see these fitted up, and let us know how they go/improve the toe in issue.

were they expensive to bring in and time frame?
I ordered a set today cost $306 AUD delivered spewing about the aussie dollar right now but that always happens when I need something from the states.

No worries. will post some pics when I fit them

cheers.. not to bad on cost. let me now how they go when you fit them up.




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posted on June 14th, 2013 at 11:53 PM



Great thread man!
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posted on March 10th, 2015 at 06:58 PM



Lots of things since last post.
One of my treasures turned up..
What is it?
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpsf99a4cea.jpg

Oh yeah..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps1d203d79.jpg

An couldn't resist! Mounted!!
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps50ba3913.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps84ac7016.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps2ecd376f.jpg

I've always wanted one an it was the right price so why not! An no point in puttin it "on display" somewhere for noone to see it.

had a shudder in the clutch an felt like the mounts had gone again, worst job but had to do it.
out with the engine, undid the box, swapped mounts an installed again, shimmed the bowden tube, easy but time consuming.

then...

battery has been goin flat, so thought id swap regulators over to see if that was the problem.
after installing everything i connected it all up bar the reg.
got sidetracked.
came back to the car an hooked up the battery,
tried to start it.
nothing.
popped the hood, checked fuses an stuff..
got back in an tried again.
still nothing but a burning smell.
shit.
ran to the back and seen the smoke.
unhooked battery.
too late, the damage has been done.
the wiring had earthed out on the generator an fried all the wiring.
time for a new loom..... again.
rookie mistake. so fuckn pissed.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps960e8713.jpg

Instead of fucking around with fixing loom, I've got one coming to replace it, not sure how far up its fried to so ill change the main section.
But also get into these
Holes punched
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps900be9bc.jpg
Captive nuts welded!
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpscdd4e119.jpg

So when the engine/firewall comes out again ill install these so they are hidden behind it all.
4mm plate cut 6"x4" these won't be goin anywhere.. Seen a mates new 4x4 with 2"x2.5" 2mm plate sikaflexed on. Looked shit.

Running cost so far.
Plates: $10
Nut n bolts: $5
Total: $15

so my decklid has finally arrived. thanks braddick for lettin it go!
1st things 1st.
i have come to hate working on the engine with the decklid on, so out with these
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpsda17d9f5.jpg

an on with these
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpse088d35f.jpg


an done
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps5ddf69ba.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpsb9e377e5.jpg

im really unsure about it still after havin the other one on for so long. just looks wrong, might clean the car an let it get all dirty again so all panels match then.. its amazing how much airborne crap the ankor wax collects

Finally had some time to get onto it... once again out with the engine..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpse6bd3ddc.jpg

off with the bolt ons an firewall..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps0e305b37.jpg

toast anyone?
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps8548005f.jpg

out with old n in with new!!!
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps0590492c.jpg

new loom went in sweet, more of the old interior fell out too, amazing how much is still up there. haha. plates will go in then firewall n engine.. then connect everything properly n fire it up again!

its amazing the difference it makes workin on the engine with the decklid been removable too

Little more tinkering..
Drilled a hole.
Yay.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps6d502f36.jpg

Bored yet?
Installed a plate.
Double yay.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps6e2f02aa.jpg

Even with the bolt at full reach through the plate it's still not that bad, an with the engine back in u won't even notice it..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpsba6fab1f.jpg

Got the engine back in an all wired up. Not doin that trick again..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpsdab3830a.jpg

Test fit again with the decklid
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps1f04dee4.jpg
Still needs a little tweak but good so far, thanks for it again Braddick.

I had the 6v battery on charge for 2days an noticed it never said full power, so it's been off for a day now an I tested it with a multimeter. 4.28v. Shit, battery is fucked an not that old either.. Should of tested it 1st but I assumed it would be good not been an old battery.
Live an learn.

So finally after days of troubleshooting an various msgs to people (thanks guys, nug, Leon, Jon, dad, bruce..) finally nailed it to the distributor earthing out so no spark to points from that.

Prior to that, pertronix wouldn't fire, changed to normal set up with points an condenser with no luck so rebuilt this one.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps00bb6192.jpg
Back to vacuum advance n points...

It fired 1st go but stopped, thought it was fuel but was same problem again.
Bent some wires, an away it went! Finally cured!!

Was lucky I had a few to choose from too, if that
one didn't work was goin to be a long day swapping distributors..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps38e2535c.jpg

It's amazing how a simple thing is such a headache, if it didn't start a match was goin to start some petrol in it!

Then I thought "I'll give it a clean" so the pics will tell a tale.
Before
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpscf60f26e.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps51bf5e38.jpg

U can see the difference here
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpsf299f70f.jpg

After a wash with degreaser
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps556edabc.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps92f91587.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpse25a26e9.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpsc88234e5.jpg

The decklid has come up good too but more rusting to make it match properly.

finally got around to installing bits.

original mounting plates, so will copy position.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps88684b16.jpg

an drill
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpsa844ec0d.jpg

an lowers mounted..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps512d32f5.jpg

finally found the right anchor point bolt size with mount
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zpsa7144bde.jpg

and got the seat in finally
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps528bd230.jpg

anchor point works a treat
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/null_zps800a8363.jpg

been wondering about the mmo intake for it for a while, then lately ive noticed after a little the judson gets a little noisier.
turned the mmo adjustment an not much difference. bit the bullet an then this happened.

whoops..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/F93ACB6D-4DFA-4F62-A320-D9F501CACE28_zpstsihfzlj.jpg

pulled it apart to check n clean it.

the intake shaft didnt seem to have good flow through the "whistle" end. if u have seen the end u will know what im talking about, looks like a steam train whistle..

pulled it apart an this is what i found
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/C6ADF720-6AB8-4078-96DD-EFC68D113D6B_zpslgxvckuj.jpg
seems it thinks it was a cat.

big ball for a small tube.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/2FDFBBC1-BC66-42CF-A213-0F837DA04231_zpskh5whwhv.jpg

so realistically, at idle when u set the flow of oil it would of been dripping at the correct amount, but then at speed with the higher vacuum an volume been sucked through, the hairball would of limited the volume been allowed through into the charger and leaned it out for lubricant.

this might be a small thing but could have a big result? or be one of a couple of smaller problems that are causing the heat.

Also had a phone call yesterday off the other half saying sorry..

Shit
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/6BB81811-453D-457D-A01E-60901F1DC6BC_zpshm3anemf.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/8DB7A7A4-AE4C-4FDD-B280-5CB17122405D_zpsphzmaojz.jpg

Out comes the hammer an..... Presto!! Like new again.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/82890624-4DF2-4387-9777-F60F0AEA392D_zpsqrcfdwrk.jpg

Then off to get new shoes, bald tyres Arnt fun in the rain anymore..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/dionjmyers/0EBD8FB1-212C-48CA-9DA5-EF49E5C511F2_zpsbv1inmfr.jpg

Thought I'd upgrade the oval a little.
Had this shifter sittin from the old panel, so thought I'd put it in..

Size does matter! Haha.

Works a treat, just needs a little fine tune on it tho but I'm happy!
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1222946.jpg

The steering was gettin a bit "how's ya father" so up it went an found this.
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1253076.jpg
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1253075.jpg

Not in good shape
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1253074.jpg

Took it off an replaced with a new one.

Also fitted these since my tyres had no tread..
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1253073.jpg
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1253072.jpg
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1253071.jpg

Still undecided. I do love steel rims. These will go on a mates bug.

it seemed misting rain after no rain for a long time make the roads slippery, and brakes lock causing skids..... into tow balls..
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1277683.jpg
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1277682.jpg

couldnt open the hood, so chop chop
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1277681.jpg
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1277680.jpg

damn, good thing "airbag" spare was there, saved a bit.
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1277679.jpg
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1277678.jpg

brought out my big hammer for the job.
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1277677.jpg

acquired a new tool
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1277676.jpg

good as new again
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1277675.jpg

an presto!! like new again
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1277674.jpg
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1277673.jpg

finally the noise and the not staying in 1st and reverse got the better of me, time for an upgrade.

donor box
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318068.jpg

stripped of its dignity
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318067.jpg

new cone n stick
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318066.jpg
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318065.jpg

swapped the axles n tubes for 40hp ones to make it look the same.
sealed bearings to hopefully make them last longer
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318063.jpg

added some special sauce to help the fulcrums n gears last longer.
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318064.jpg

ready for install
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318062.jpg

machined flywheel while motor was out, also changed manifold, generator to a newly built one too..
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318058.jpg

out u go.
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318057.jpg
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318056.jpg

an out u go trash box
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318055.jpg

in you go
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318054.jpg

since wanting to keep it close to og, I wanted to use the split case bits, but came across a problem, split box bearing seal housings don't fit the 40hp tubes, an the 1500 ones don't fit either..so went an tried the 40hp ones with the split tranny back n brakes.. perfect.
u can see the difference in the 36hp splitbox, 40hp n 1500 ones here
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318053.jpg
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318052.jpg

like a glove now
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318051.jpg

and all back in.
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1318050.jpg

list of things done
-1500 box
-40hp tubes, axles n bearing seal housing
-sealed bearings
-new gaskets throughout
-nose cone n stick
-rebuilt generator
-machined flywheel/ pressure plate
-clutch plate
-re torqued top head studs
-rocker gaskets

started 1st go which was great, went for a run and the difference is amazing. no tranny noise in the cab, smoother take offs, revs are better and seems to be a smoother ride. the only cab noise now is the throaty exhaust tone and the intake and whistle of the blower. even gear selection is better now too.

now the rear is sorted with the box, onto another "upgrade" for it ive had hidden away for a while..
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1321233.jpg
average man size beam, 6"

came out of another bug because it was "a drag racing beam"

leaves were dry
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1321232.jpg

cleaned up the surfaces.
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1321229.jpg

red oxide
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1321228.jpg

an nice n black for it all
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1321226.jpg
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1321227.jpg

greased up leaves an installed bushes
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1321231.jpg
steel on steel rubbing isnt too good, an a little lube never hurt anyone...

arms on... just needs an install now!!
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1321230.jpg

got this sorted too for it.. quick steer installed on a spare pitman arm.
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1321764.jpg
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posted on March 10th, 2015 at 09:57 PM



Nice work man, keep the pics comin also a vid would be nice



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posted on March 11th, 2015 at 04:38 PM



http://youtu.be/ILGTkb9yTIk 

Try that for a little vid..
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posted on March 12th, 2015 at 08:37 AM



Nice work Dion, car is looking great! Keep up the good work!
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