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posted on May 12th, 2009 at 05:51 AM



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posted on May 12th, 2009 at 07:01 AM



I hate to say it but better now than on your first run at Warwick.

positive spin - broken gearbox = good power
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posted on May 12th, 2009 at 06:45 PM



It was a good night on the dyno, other than braking the box. This dose happen, i have a mountain of them. Don't look back, just keep moving forward, either new parts or old, as long as it's on the road again soon, thats what i think racing is.
Glad we were able to fix the injector rails and the idle valve in this 3hr session, so only have mixtures to do.
Two steps forward one step back.
I even got to drive it on the dyno, man i have to appreciate that volksy turbo combo, sounds so sweet.
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posted on May 12th, 2009 at 07:15 PM



well the cars back home, i drove it on and off the trailer and it doesnt sound great but hopefully theres not to much damage. I will start pulling it all out over the weekend and see what i can find. Will let you know once its apart



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posted on May 12th, 2009 at 08:19 PM



While the box is apart we might call on Mr Albins for some "goodies"......

Hopefully it is what we think it might be Troy after talking to a few today. Hopefully damage is minimual and not too much of an expense to repair.

Positive thing is Matt has done more in 3 odd hours to sort issues out and have the car run soo much better than the countless hours it sat and the tiny amount of time it was on the dyno for the huge bill from the other crowd.

I have to admit when I got the phone call Troy sounded kinda calm considering and was actually sounding positive about how the car was running and that all gremlins were fixed and sorted:tu:




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posted on May 13th, 2009 at 06:17 AM



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While the box is apart we might call on Mr Albins for some "goodies"......




Quick Troy while he's saying "we" get some money off him...:lol:
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posted on May 13th, 2009 at 05:34 PM



yeah stanley, except the we does the talking and i do the spending. Anyway i have just drained the oil out of the box and it doesnt seem to bad, theres alot of fine bits in the oil but no large chunks so hopefully when i get it apart on the weekend theres no to much to repair( positive thinking)!!!!



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posted on May 15th, 2009 at 09:55 PM



well the engine and box are out of the car, i have started to pull the box apart, so far it looks like it must striped the splines off the shaft 3rd gear must be on im guessing cause there no big bits yet just all small lengths like splines. i will try to get the rest of the box apart tomorrow and post some pics..



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posted on May 16th, 2009 at 07:47 PM



What's this "try"

Just do it
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posted on May 16th, 2009 at 08:06 PM



box is apart, third gear has or should i say had the fine tooth gears but they are now all in the bottom of the box. i got together with aaron today and we pulled it all apart and aaron had a 1600 kombi 3rd gear which has the corse tooth that will fit so now the clean up and get in touch with dangerous when he gets home to arrange to get it put back together. I will take some pics now and post soon.



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posted on May 17th, 2009 at 04:15 PM



http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss30/typethreeking/GEARS.jpg here is the pics of the broken third gear not to many teeth left!!!



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posted on May 24th, 2009 at 12:46 PM



http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu310/type3king/IMG_3078.jpg thought i would post some pics of my front gearbox mount while i had it out, needed some repair as there was a crack in it.



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posted on May 26th, 2009 at 08:47 PM



I'm back now dude,
give me a call omorrow after I get some spleep.




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posted on May 29th, 2009 at 05:42 PM
Troy's Trans Repair


I think troy was very lucky only to have broken the third gear.
While it is apart, I did a few little things to make it as good as it can
be without going the Quaife route,
nor going for Albin gears(yet).

His trans alread had a 4 spider gear super diff fitted in a past life,
but was other wise stock
except for a too-tall 0,821 fourth gear from a late 1600 bus trans.(2550 rpm at 100km/h)

As seen in the picture above,
it stripped the fine tooth third gear.
In its past Troy told me he had the box rebuilt after the mainshaft bearing failed and 4th gear broke.
I think after driving to Valla in third gear with the dead bearing,
the third gear was alo weakened.

I have upgraded to the 1800 bus gears with a 1.26 third,
and 0.889 fourth.(2700 at 100km/h)
These are factory electron beam welded,
and I have used them with as much as 460hp.(for a good time not a long time).

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/IMG_1524.jpg




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posted on May 29th, 2009 at 06:02 PM



The first gear in Troy's trans was the later model one,
but to help it some more I have replaced the plastic caged short rollers
with the steel caged ones from an early 40hp trans.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/IMG_1522.jpg

I also machined the 1st/2nd hub to control the end floatof first gear,
and added some oil holes.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/IMG_1523.jpg

Second gear also got a metal caged bearing and end float set on it.

Unfortunately there was some unexpected wear on the teeth of the side gears and spiders,
so I found some good used ones.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/IMG_1529.jpg




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posted on May 29th, 2009 at 06:10 PM



The new side gears were modified on the ends to remove the circlip groove.
I have made up some steel spacers and bolt-on caps to retain the CV flanges.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/IMG_1530.jpg

When the bolts are torqued,
it will help stop the wobble of the flange
that often breaks off the spline, in high torque applications.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/IMG_1537.jpg




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posted on May 29th, 2009 at 06:15 PM



The third gear end float was set,
and then the hub was modified to accept a thicker 2lt bus circlip.
This will stop the hub thrusting forward and burning up the 4th gear
as the end clearance changes.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/IMG_1525.jpg

I used a metal cage on 4th gear too.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/IMG_1526.jpg

This trans had been updated with an 091 mainshaft bearing,
so 4th gear needed to have some oil grooves added to the gear face. (just like 2lt bus).

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/IMG_1527.jpg




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posted on May 29th, 2009 at 06:19 PM



This was a 1976 model trans and so it had the strongest "2-rib" side cover:

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/IMG_1535.jpg

The final touch was to machine the nose cone flat, and add a steel thrust plate,
to help prevent the mainshaft bearing from thrusting under load.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/IMG_1531.jpg




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posted on May 29th, 2009 at 06:25 PM



For a low budget repair,
this trans should now be as strong as the next week link in the chain.....the CV joints.

The descision was made not to use Albins gears at this time
because troy prefered to wait and buy them to suit a future upgrade with a 2lt bus or Renault trans.




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posted on May 30th, 2009 at 08:33 AM



Nice work Dave,

Good to see all the other mods your've done, rather than just replacing the broken bits.

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You never cease to amaze Dangerous. So long as the driving remains sensible then it should be capable of doing the job at hand.



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posted on May 30th, 2009 at 06:36 PM



Beautiful and detailed as always Dave. :tu:



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posted on May 31st, 2009 at 08:37 AM



Thanks dave for getting this done for me so quick, i didnt really expect you to have it back to me so fast but i do appreciate it. Well now all i have to do is piece the puzzle back together and back to the dyno AGAIN for the final touches. Thanks again but somehow i dont think it will be the last!!!



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posted on May 31st, 2009 at 11:43 AM



Not only can he make a killer muffin, he's not bad at putting a box back together as well! Man of many talents :)
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well the box is back in the car and now comes the fun part, the maze of pipe work and putting the engine back in, i never look forward to this part, i guess now while it out theres a few small oil leaks i will try to fix, and thats all i can do try.



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posted on June 1st, 2009 at 05:57 PM



take a dose of harden the %$@* up and do it princess........surely at this point, being so close, the motavation will come preety easy...........besides DB will want to see if the box is all good :lol: (naturally it will be, thanx for the pics Dangerous)

i hope it goes well ALL pays off soon in the form of some happy trouble free motoring!

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I know I'm a bit of a lurker here but I really look forward to seeing Troy get some enjoyment from his investment!
It's gonna be quite a handful I imagine...in a GOOD way!
As always...looking forward to the next update!
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My guess is that once Troy has the timeslip saying it does XYZ times at XYZ speed over the quarter and it's close or even better than what he is expecting and nothing has gone wrong whatsoever then the enjoyment will begin.....



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posted on June 4th, 2009 at 12:30 PM



I reckon that is when stage two will start being planned :lol:



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