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 VWGrub
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| posted on May 25th, 2013 at 10:15 AM |
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Have I just bought a 62 Bug *With IMAGES*
Howdy All,
Brand new to the forum, just bought a VW in the first time for 15 years.
Have had many bugs, type 3s and a few buses in the past, but have now got the resources to start playing with cars again.
Wondering if you the masters of chassis numbers can help me figure what year the bug I just bought is?
The guy sold it to me as a 62 model, but the chassis starts off as 3052***!
My research and may be wrong, but this tells me it's a 60 model! Your input is appreciated!
Will get some images up tonight if anyone's interested in my little Barn/ Carport find
Cheers Grub,
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| posted on May 25th, 2013 at 10:31 AM |
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posted by VWGrub
if anyone's interested in my little Barn/ Carport find
Cheers Grub,
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G'day and welcome
You better get some pics up or we wont believe you actually got one
Seriously, join in and enjoy
I'm sure someone will answer the chasis number question soon
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| posted on May 25th, 2013 at 10:35 AM |
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OK - I could be wrong as well, but I agree, it may be a 1960??
http://www.vw-resource.com/years.html#1951-1960
1960 (1 Jan 60 to 31 Dec 60)
Chassis 2,801,614 - 3,192,506
Engine 3,424,454 - 3,912,903
Recessed steering wheel for safety.
Steering damper.
Steering box is worm-and-peg instead of worm and roller.
Generator increased from 160 to 180 watts (26.5 to 30 amps).
Outside door handles now push button (was pull type).
Padded sun visor.
Seat back re-contoured.
Wolfsburg crest on front hood has less colour.
Last year for semaphores in Europe, Canada, Australia.
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| posted on May 25th, 2013 at 01:50 PM |
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Thanks for the feedback, just been out cleaning it up as it hasn't been on the road since 98.
As everyone likes to hear the find story, found it in the net, guy was selling it cause his dad is no longer to complete the restoration due to
illness.
Looks to have a late engine lid and reco'd motor with all the new bits. Did fire it up before buying but this morning with a healthy slurp of fuel,
fired into life real quick.
So will recheck the car over again, but looks to only need some simple bodywork, some wiring and new trim. Will be fun!
Will get some images up as soon as I can get to the laptop, can't seem to figure out uploading images from a iPhone
Cheers Grub
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The Resto Begins
So after picking it up on Friday, and going over the bug on Saturday to see what I have. Note: last registered 1998.
A quick inspection, found the common spots for rust. So the quick once over has now turned into a quick body off rust repair to get to the heater
channels
I finally got stuck into it after making a quick trip down to the VW Nats at Fairfield on Sunday to see if i could source some parts at the swap meet.
Only collected Hoodlining and Tailpipes
Following is a few pics, from how I found it, to cleaning it down and the strip.
Please comment on what year you think it is, as I am comming to the conclusion, with the chassis number starting off with 305, and the older Fuel
Tank, suggests 1960!
Also anyone have a clue to the engine size from the number here?
Cheers!
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| posted on May 29th, 2013 at 05:18 PM |
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So as most will notice, the engine lid is a later model and front indicators.
Keen to hear what else is not original, if you don't mind
Cheers Grub.
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| posted on May 29th, 2013 at 05:25 PM |
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Engine,
Owner said it was fully reco'd and a quick inspection:
New Heads, tubes indicate this.
New Fuel Pump, Generator and Carb.
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| posted on May 29th, 2013 at 05:27 PM |
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Operation Body off
The Rust repairs start, now off with that Body!
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| posted on May 29th, 2013 at 05:45 PM |
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So here is the Interior, also indicating a 1960 model.
Can someone tell me when the Fuel gauge was introduced into the dash fascia??
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| posted on May 29th, 2013 at 07:38 PM |
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its definitely a bitza
If a 1960 it should have -
a crest badge on the hood
ghlass snow flake tail lights
no seat belt anchor points
no fuel gauge
a beak on the engine lid
push button door handles
You seen to have some of these
Does the chassis number match the on on the pan under the back seat?
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| posted on May 29th, 2013 at 07:54 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Bizarre
its definitely a bitza
If a 1960 it should have -
a crest badge on the hood
ghlass snow flake tail lights
no seat belt anchor points
no fuel gauge
a beak on the engine lid
push button door handles
You seen to have some of these
Does the chassis number match the on on the pan under the back seat?
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Yeah chassis number does match, I am only assuming, that over the past 50 years, the guards, engine lid and bonnet have been upgraded to later
model.
Though I scored a period correct engine lid today, so one piece of the puzzle sorted.
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| posted on May 29th, 2013 at 09:34 PM |
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The rear guards are probably original, those 62+ tail lights are lower than normal where the 50/50s used to mount.
Its a cross over 60 model when alot of changes were happening so its a mix of early and late.
Can see it was originally a 36hp car with the early tank, metal speedo cable tube, no oh-shit handle but has the later push button door handles,
indicators not semaphores, padded visors and the later steering column with what would have been the dished horn ring style steering wheel.
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| posted on May 29th, 2013 at 09:51 PM |
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^ as per Joel and no towel rails on the bumpers (no holes therefore no extra supports thru the front apron) Should have narrow front indicators that
sit closer to the body, where yours are. And you'll have a hole in the body where the fuel reserve tap would stick through (if it's not there
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| posted on May 29th, 2013 at 09:51 PM |
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This is definitely a mid 1960 beetle the choke cable indicates that it had the 36hp motor. Check the back of the speedo, the date stamped will
hopefully give a good indication.
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| posted on May 29th, 2013 at 10:17 PM |
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Check the back of the speedo, the date stamped will hopefully give a good indication.
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That's not the original speedo.
36hp cars had the 80mph speedo with the big clear needle.
its a later 40hp onwards 90mph speedo.
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| posted on May 29th, 2013 at 10:25 PM |
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The Speedo is stamped 1957, but not thinking I got the right number off it, Will take a image of it soon.
And yes the reserve switch is there, above the tunnel.
Here's a question: what year did semaphones cease?
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| posted on May 29th, 2013 at 10:33 PM |
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Mid 60, just before your bug would have been made.
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| posted on May 30th, 2013 at 07:04 AM |
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The body number suggests that it is a 1960, I have a 60 and the body number starts with 2993424, the speedo is stamped 5/60,also you have the three
finger front panel.( latch support panel).
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| posted on May 30th, 2013 at 07:16 AM |
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Looks like a mid '60, with a lot of later bits added.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on June 14th, 2013 at 12:55 PM |
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good luck
big job ahead of you.
hope you get it all done .
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| posted on June 14th, 2013 at 02:33 PM |
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Mid 60, just before your bug would have been made.
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I agree, My father bought a 60 model beetle with the 50/50 tail lamps, narrow blinkers close to the bonnet..
wolfsburg crest on bonnet..
push button door handles..
no fuel gauge.. that reserve tank came in handy quite often... lol
no syncho on first gear...
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| posted on June 15th, 2013 at 08:49 AM |
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Ok guys, firstly really appreciate the comments and yes it has turned into a little bigger project than I thought, but hey since I plan on keeping it,
need to do it right!
So where am up to now, is going from only doing the passenger side heater channel to doing both heater channels, both rear cross members and the inner
guard on the p/s side. This makes common sense whilst the body's off.
Appreciate any feedback if there's any tricks I should know to lookout for whilst installing these repair panels.
I noticed that while the dimensions on the cross ermembers are correct, they are different to the ones removed and will need massaging. Anyone else
came across this? Bought from Just Kampers
On another note, looking to weld them in this weekend!
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| posted on June 15th, 2013 at 08:51 AM |
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Cutting out the Swiss cheese in the inner guard
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| posted on June 15th, 2013 at 08:52 AM |
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Rear p/s crossmember out
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| posted on June 15th, 2013 at 08:54 AM |
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You wouldn't of guessed, more rust found!
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| posted on June 15th, 2013 at 08:57 AM |
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Old crossmember vs new replacement. You will see there is a few differences where it welds up to the rear apron, plus the extension on the new part
inside the rear arch.
Curious, anyone done this and tips??
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| posted on June 15th, 2013 at 12:17 PM |
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in for a penny - in for a pound
Great stuff mate
Should have a ripper when you are finished
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| posted on June 15th, 2013 at 03:00 PM |
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This is what's in stall for this weekend!
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| posted on June 29th, 2013 at 03:26 PM |
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Guys, if anyone is interested, I've started a new Facebook page to follow my build but also have others contribute photos of their builds. I noticed
their is not a page o Facebook covering this, so thought why not start one!
Anyway along with build images, I am also including eBay and Gumtree finds along with some cool finished VW's!
The page is "VW Restorers Australia" please like and share and hopefully build the VW lifestyle!
Cheers Grub!
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