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posted on June 16th, 2013 at 10:56 AM
Cracked Rim


I have a GTi Polo and the last week I have had a slow leak.
A week to loos 10 lbs
Couldnt see any marks any where.
They are low profile tyres (40 series) but I havent been smashing into potholes or anything

Anyway - pulled the wheel today, front passenger, and found the rim is cracked.

The car is 2 years old and done 22,000 kms.

Do you reckon it is damage I have done or do you reckon it is a rubbish rim I can claim on warranty

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posted on June 16th, 2013 at 11:55 AM



Rubbish rims :lol:



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posted on June 16th, 2013 at 05:56 PM



In my experience, and believe me I,ve seen lots of cracked rims that is an impact fracture.
I bet it came of the front left?
With low profile tyres there is nearly no give in the tyre sidewall so the rim takes all impact, even small ones you don,t even feel.
However the good news is that's an easy repair. A good engineering shop will weld and reroll that for around $100.00 dollars.

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posted on June 16th, 2013 at 06:00 PM



Barry try Morton and May at Liverpool to fix it

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posted on June 16th, 2013 at 08:12 PM



Still worth having a word with your local VW dealers. Depending on their general knowledge you could get a new alloy for gratis :)

Either way don't continue using as it'll just get bigger but you probably knew that anyway.




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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 03:41 PM



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Rubbish rims :lol:


Fark! thats scary.

thats exactly why I don't touch post 95 on most things.

People say I scrutinize everything too much, you have too with this shit. :crazy:

This reminds me of those Rota wheels that just snap of when driving.




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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 06:25 PM



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Fark! thats scary.

thats exactly why I don't touch post 95 on most things.


Oh harden up, thats barely a scratch.

I've had plenty of properly fucked rims thanks to the shitty roads round here....

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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 06:26 PM



Nothing wrong with the rims, blame the 40 series rubber on there. Any wheel with a rubber band on it cops an absolute pounding.



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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 06:30 PM



Joel, that kind of stuff is why I run 14" rims and 70 series tyres. Much more comfortable and less prone to damage. I can even rub up against kerbs without scratching the rim!



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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 06:34 PM



Yeah but they look and handle like crap.

Its the price you pay occasionally for better looks and handling anyway it was no big loss, I payed under $200 for those sets of rims and a good excuse to get more.

I had 14s on mine back in the 90s with 75 series tyres, that much wall flexes under hard cornering rediculous amounts.
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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 06:50 PM



factory fitted tyre, on a factory rim, with no visible damage, and driven on good roads......and its cracked ???

I'd be going down the warranty route.




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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 07:24 PM



Anatomy of a crack,stage one you hit a pothole gutter,stick rock etc, this causes a flat spot in the edge of the rim. This in turn causes stress's on the rim which results in a crack. Most people dont know that they have damaged a rim till the tyre goes flat. The problem with wheels these days are that they are made for perfect conditions, flat roads and no potholes and as well european wheels are naturally soft so damage easily here. Also tyres that have no sidewall or give when you run over something.
My suggestion is before confronting dealer, first take the rim and have the tyre removed, while at the tyre place get them to spin up the rim on the balancer and visually watch the inside edge. The maximum runout, wobble is 1.8mm total. Very rare to have damage on the outside face. Once you have found there is no damage then take wheel to dealer and go warranty.
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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 07:44 PM



Is it a cast or forged alloy rim?

Forged is far less prone to cracking.




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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 08:46 PM



Well........................ went to Morton & May to do as has been suggested above.
To get an opinion before going to VW

and.................................................well.......................if you look at the 2nd pic, at about 180 degrees to the crack you can see a buckle.
Well I can now. Mr Morton (or Mr May??) saw it straight away

Seems I (or wife or #1) has hit a pot hole and done the damage

Now I wont say I have never hit a pot hole, but I am surprised at the damage.
Certainly hit pot holes in the 1303, but that runs 55 series (and Porsche wheels)

On the up side - $125 and it will be good as new.

On the other side - no way would I upgrade to 18" over the 17" now.

Whatever.... live and learn

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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 09:58 PM



Quote:
Originally posted by Joel
Quote:
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Fark! thats scary.

thats exactly why I don't touch post 95 on most things.


Oh harden up, thats barely a scratch.

I've had plenty of properly fucked rims thanks to the shitty roads round here....

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holy shit, those are as thin as paper. you must be brave or stupid to drive on those things :lol:




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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 10:28 PM



And do you really expect $2k worth of Alloys to be any better made?

Unless you go old skool names like Borbet, maybe TSW, then they're just gonna be cheap cast rims.

As for QLD roads they were never constructed very well until more recent times so unless the road is completely ripped up and foundations laid from scratch then the weather here will create potholes very easily. Fact of life in Oz.




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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 10:50 PM



Quote:
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holy shit, those are as thin as paper. you must be brave or stupid to drive on those things :lol:


Nearly all cars on the road these days have alloys that thickness.
They're all coming out with alloy wheels now, steelies are becoming a thing of the past.
They can't make them much thicker than that as they end up too heavy.
Steelies don;t hold up much better, You should see some of the bent and buckled steel wheels in the scrap pile at the wreckers around here.

We have some of the worst potholes around in this area due to the high rainfall and amount of backwater country roads the councils just can;t keep up.

There are several about 6"+ deep just along my road at the moment.
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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 10:58 PM



no, but I do expect the older forged (Porsche for eg) and aussie made rims to be better.

you havn't seen shit roads til you go to vic, I been to most other states and Vic has been the worst by far, well maybe except sydney :lol:

the roads here fall apart every time it rain, especially the Calder freeway.




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posted on June 17th, 2013 at 11:05 PM



Just the shapes made when you dent a rim a low is followed by a high and that is the crack.



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posted on June 18th, 2013 at 07:08 AM



Quote:
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no, but I do expect the older forged (Porsche for eg) and aussie made rims to be better.

you havn't seen shit roads til you go to vic, I been to most other states and Vic has been the worst by far, well maybe except sydney :lol:

the roads here fall apart every time it rain, especially the Calder freeway.


to me sounds like you been to fuck all places, i been around australia twice and if you think victorias roads are the worse you only been in citys and on highways




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posted on June 19th, 2013 at 07:48 PM



mate, I been all over oz and drive 1000k a week every week, in sydney as we speak, was in adelaide the sat that just past.

been to europe few times too.

and you tell me I dont go to places? every time you say shit about me its just asumptions, usless asumption about a person you dont even know, so go fuck your self.




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posted on June 20th, 2013 at 01:28 AM



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Quote:
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holy shit, those are as thin as paper. you must be brave or stupid to drive on those things :lol:


Nearly all cars on the road these days have alloys that thickness.
They're all coming out with alloy wheels now, steelies are becoming a thing of the past.
They can't make them much thicker than that as they end up too heavy.
Steelies don;t hold up much better, You should see some of the bent and buckled steel wheels in the scrap pile at the wreckers around here.

We have some of the worst potholes around in this area due to the high rainfall and amount of backwater country roads the councils just can;t keep up.

There are several about 6"+ deep just along my road at the moment.

the price of living in paradise! We have good roads around here but its a shithole!




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posted on June 20th, 2013 at 04:55 PM



Well I guess that's true, for every 10 shitty roads we have around here there is 1 that is an absolute blast to drive.

Dunno what sort of state the Lions Road is in at the moment but ever since the Yelgun to Chinderah Freeway opened and got the Pacific highway traffic off Burringbar range its great fun.
Not sure if the Speed cameras are still active but the Cops still troll it constantly as the bike groups and boy racers still use it as a Nurburgring so gotta be careful.....
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posted on June 20th, 2013 at 08:00 PM



Mmmm burringbar range! still one of the best bits of road around! The sidling in tasmania is as good maybe better, Tawonga gap road down here also rates highly, oh and the road from wauchope to the top of the hill, OH YEAH!!!!!!!! Tunnel road between ocean shores and mullum is fun but ROUGH but thats where i cut my teeth!



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posted on June 25th, 2013 at 02:14 AM



havent been to tassie but everywhere else. Worst I have found is western qland. I dont rate sydney that bad for potholes. Only for shithouse design, traffic, and number of friggin annoying patchwork joins. Heavy vehicle traffic in wollongong makes the roads worse than sydney. We've got a corrugated freeway.



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