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 PorscheKombi
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| posted on June 21st, 2013 at 03:28 PM |
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Additional costs of importing parts
So, only being in oz for near 3months i was thinking what parts i could try and accumulate for my bus.
having come from the uk, where you get stung by import tax and VAT etc etc when importing from states, I was wondering if Australia was any better.
my brief search found this:
http://www.customs.gov.au/site/importingGoodsByPostFaq.asp
which implies that anything imported under $1000 is not subject to any duty GST etc.
Is this really true?
I have always wanted a gene berg shifter so would i only need to pay the the price of the part and shipping without fear of being stung for any
customs/import/GST etc?
NaFe
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| posted on June 21st, 2013 at 03:37 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by PorscheKombi
Is this really true?
I have always wanted a gene berg shifter so would i only need to pay the the price of the part and shipping without fear of being stung for any
customs/import/GST etc?
NaFe
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Yep, under a grand, no tax, 
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| posted on June 21st, 2013 at 03:55 PM |
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I better get involved then...
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| posted on June 21st, 2013 at 04:55 PM |
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Generally there is no duty between Australia and the US. But GST applies where the product and shipping is over $1000. Not just the product. Then GST
is calculated on the total.
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| posted on June 21st, 2013 at 07:32 PM |
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Better order soon before our dollar becomes worthless
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| posted on June 21st, 2013 at 07:49 PM |
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hmmmmmmm worthless for your wallet not for your country
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| posted on June 21st, 2013 at 09:39 PM |
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Just a question on this.
How does the tax dept/government know how much my products cost me from the US?
Theres no price tag on the packaging,only my address and details of the sender..
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| posted on June 21st, 2013 at 09:57 PM |
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Everything I buy from the US has a decleration sticker attached with the price of the goods. I would assume with no decleration they have the right to
seize goods and you have to provide invoice to prove cost of goods, and charge you a fee to check it.
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| posted on June 21st, 2013 at 11:09 PM |
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i've heard some stuff in the news about the strength/weakness in the dollar. if its making news as a bad thing, then surely its only bad one way - i
presume its bad exporting, so US buying Aus goods....i.e. good for Aus people buying US goods (in terms of historical exchange rates)
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| posted on June 21st, 2013 at 11:36 PM |
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Our $ low makes our exports more attractive to overseas but makes imported products less attractive to Australian consumers, therefore good for the
country but not for the consumer
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| posted on June 21st, 2013 at 11:52 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by PorscheKombi
i've heard some stuff in the news about the strength/weakness in the dollar. if its making news as a bad thing, then surely its only bad one way - i
presume its bad exporting, so US buying Aus goods....i.e. good for Aus people buying US goods (in terms of historical exchange rates)
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Yes
if the $Aus dollar goes down to say 85 cents US
holden will probably sell heaps more cars to the USA..
and AUSSIE manufacturers will also be able to sell aussie made goods to the USA much easier...
so it is good news for Australia but many things will get more expensive for Us.. especially anything from the USA..
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| posted on June 22nd, 2013 at 12:00 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by bugmaniaar
Just a question on this.
How does the tax dept/government know how much my products cost me from the US?
Theres no price tag on the packaging,only my address and details of the sender..
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well that IS weird as every parcel I get from overseas has the price of the goods inside on the parcel... ON A STICKER
I noticed the price I paid was on the label on the carby I bought from the USA..
many shops will have the price you paid printed out..
but people can write anything on the label...
like prize or sample goods value $ 000
and some stuff I get from china or hong kong or the UK has that written on it.. OR VALUE $1 ETC..
CHEERS
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| posted on June 22nd, 2013 at 12:13 AM |
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Yes, that is true..
the value should be written on a sticker on the parcel
for tax import duties etc...
so, if someone wrote that your parts were worth $1250
then You would be charged import duty and anything else they want to charge you..
they can write : used parts with no value
regardless of whats in the box...
and chances are You wouldnt pay anything..
if You buy parts from the UK.. Yes I know they are expensive...lol You won't pay VAT... or shouldn't..
and even if You buy from some states in the USA that have state VAT or GST You wont pay them either...
but You better be quick as Our dollar is falling to the USA dollar.. it was wprth $1-05 at one time..
but read today that the US GOV is no longer going to top up their $$ by buying bonds...
this doesn't finish until next year by US Government..
so Our dollar may keep going down for a while..??
but also Read where Aussie businesses told NOT to expect Our dollar to keep going down
cheers
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posted by PorscheKombi
So, only being in oz for near 3months i was thinking what parts i could try and accumulate for my bus.
having come from the uk, where you get stung by import tax and VAT etc etc when importing from states, I was wondering if Australia was any better.
my brief search found this:
http://www.customs.gov.au/site/importingGoodsByPostFaq.asp
which implies that anything imported under $1000 is not subject to any duty GST etc.
Is this really true?
I have always wanted a gene berg shifter so would i only need to pay the the price of the part and shipping without fear of being stung for any
customs/import/GST etc?
NaFe
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| posted on June 22nd, 2013 at 07:34 AM |
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Yeah, everything I have ever received from the states has the dollar value on the outside of the box somewhere....if it isn't declared by the sender
then you'll definitely run the risk of the package being searched/opened/seized by customs. If they do open it and are suspicious of you trying to do
the dodgy and import goods worth more than the $1000aud threshold and not pay import gst taxes, good chance you'll either get fined or the goods will
be seized......
You can have the sender put comments in the description of the goods to say 'samples' or 'used parts' or something of the like, but if customs are
suspicious they can still investigate the goods and who knows what they will come up with.
I' d suggest be careful if trying to be dodgy as sometimes it would be better/cheaper to pay the import gst taxes than having your new parts seized
and not getting them at all.
In saying all that, if you buy goods worth under the customs threshold it's all good...no taxes and you've more than likely got some killer new
parts for way less than what you can buy here locally.....
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| posted on June 22nd, 2013 at 07:44 AM |
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For parts over a $1000,
Most vw places will do freeshipping in the US
send it to a friend, then have them send it to you
disclaimer: I have never done this for the purpose of tax evasion
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| posted on June 22nd, 2013 at 06:41 PM |
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WHY the $1000.00 threshold?
I was told that anything below $1000.00 costs the government more to recover than the revenue raised.
Makes sense.
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| posted on June 22nd, 2013 at 07:05 PM |
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maybe i better order that gene berg this week then hehe will still be
cheaper than buying un UK i think
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| posted on June 22nd, 2013 at 07:16 PM |
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Parts from CIP1 etc in the USA are very cheap even for good quality German made stuff [or USA made parts]
but the postage they charge Us in Australia is just too expensive..
much much more than they should be...
but Most of the big shops over there do it..
but live in the USA and its usually free... [if your order is worth so much]
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| posted on June 23rd, 2013 at 07:33 PM |
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It's all relative to what parts you are ordering.
When I first started ordering from cip1 I continually recalculated the shipping costs.
The results were very interesting.
The following results are a rough guess so don't quote me!
At about $120.00 the shipping was more than the cost of parts.
At $300.00 shipping was over $200
At $500 shipping had topped out at somewhere above 300 and had started falling
By the time it reached 850 the shipping had fallen to about 220.
So the more you spend the lower the cost of shipping per dollar spent.
When I order I start with a long list and pile the cart with everything I want.
I then trim it down until I reach the magic $1000.00 mark, save the cart, and walk away.
The next day I go back and check it over, make changes if necessary, and then pay for it.
Sometimes I haven't enough to make the magic 1k, so I will top up with other goodies
such as service items (plugs, fuel filters etc.), tools, books and so on.
If your stuck, phone a friend and see if there's anything they need.
The added cost of shipping when done this way is more than recovered by the lower cost of the parts.
And don't forget the advantage of an excellent response time.
I have waited three weeks for a part from Melbourne.
I have had orders from CIP1 in CALIFORNIA in THREE DAYS!
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| posted on June 23rd, 2013 at 11:38 PM |
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when i bought a couples of things for from cb
one article got held by customs asking for import tax to be paid,
on the dec it said it was $1152 or whatever it was.
I rang them up and told them that the cost of goods were actually 900 and the rest was postage.
and then sent them email with invoice attatched.
and they released it
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| posted on June 24th, 2013 at 01:37 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by narumi
when i bought a couples of things for from cb
one article got held by customs asking for import tax to be paid,
on the dec it said it was $1152 or whatever it was.
I rang them up and told them that the cost of goods were actually 900 and the rest was postage.
and then sent them email with invoice attatched.
and they released it
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that was lucky... I was under the impression & from everything I have bought from the UK & US that you MUST be under $1000... so $999.99 is
SAFE...
that is the items you have bought + the shipping charges. This I know because ive been charged extra for goods before... saying this IT also depends
who the seller ships your items with... from the US ... UPS, FedEx & USPS are all treated different from Australian customs
Im guessing this would be the same from the UK.
| Quote: | Originally
posted by nils
For parts over a $1000,
Most vw places will do freeshipping in the US
send it to a friend, then have them send it to you
disclaimer: I have never done this for the purpose of tax evasion
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GOLD 
PorscheKombi - rumour has it... if you do buy items O/S & for some reason they reach $1350 etc etc over $1000 ... you can always ask the seller to
declare the goods are ONLY worth $999.99 or less (under $1k).
I read this somewhere once
"When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends"
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| posted on June 24th, 2013 at 08:32 AM |
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at the moment, i wont be buying anything over $1000. but all good details to know
as for postage costs, i remember buying some deluxe clips from a place in the US and their online basket/checkout system was going to charge me some
ridiculous amount for two packets of clips. i sent them an email and they confirmed my suspisions - their website was shit . they reduced reduced my shipping to an acceptable amount. i presume people
have tried to talk/email these US companies to check postage costs....
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| posted on June 24th, 2013 at 09:41 AM |
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My purchase with CB came just over $1000, so customs held it up. But again, like stated i showed them the invoice that the goods themselves were only
$835 or so... and thus it got released.
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| posted on June 24th, 2013 at 04:26 PM |
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Did CB Performance add the freight into the cost of parts on the docket??
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| posted on June 24th, 2013 at 04:35 PM |
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Yes,
small companies or individuals who actually write the amount on the docket can write whatever, but many won't because they don't know anything about
what they are doing... just writing an amount... but You tell them/inform them, they will normally do it.. or [if the Boss will let them??]
[size=5]unless they are afraid of the Government..[/size] lol
Larger companies are usually governed by what their computer says .. and as some states in the USA pay state tax
they are used to writing the correct amount on the end of the order... [not the invoice less freight]
as freight is often free in the USA..
plus as You said, the freight is MUCH more by FEDEX UPS
so adds more to the invoice..
but freight shouldn't be included... ??
cheers
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posted by shaven
that was lucky... I was under the impression & from everything I have bought from the UK & US that you MUST be under $1000... so $999.99 is
SAFE...
that is the items you have bought + the shipping charges. This I know because ive been charged extra for goods before... saying this IT also depends
who the seller ships your items with... from the US ... UPS, FedEx & USPS are all treated different from Australian customs
Im guessing this would be the same from the UK.
| Quote: | Originally
posted by nils
For parts over a $1000,
Most vw places will do freeshipping in the US
send it to a friend, then have them send it to you
disclaimer: I have never done this for the purpose of tax evasion
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GOLD
PorscheKombi - rumour has it... if you do buy items O/S & for some reason they reach $1350 etc etc over $1000 ... you can always ask the seller to
declare the goods are ONLY worth $999.99 or less (under $1k).
I read this somewhere once
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by nils
For parts over a $1000,
Most vw places will do freeshipping in the US
send it to a friend, then have them send it to you
disclaimer: I have never done this for the purpose of tax evasion
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There are a host of mail forwarding companies in the US. I have used them a few times for my running shoes. Brooks dont allow their retailers to send
OS because they lose minimum 50% profit I presume. If I get the shoes on sale they can land here at less than half price sometimes including shipping.
And if I can talk a few friends into buying shoes at the same time it is cheaper again.
Not saying they are the cheapest company but shipito was the one I randomly picked a couple of years ago. When they receive my package they send me an
email of the package. For $2 they will open it and take photos of the contents. They then give me a host of different shipping and insurance options.
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 68AutoBug
Did CB Performance add the freight into the cost of parts on the docket??
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Yes they did initially as they didn't have a price break up, just the total price i paid. Thats why customs withheld the package initially, as the
total cost price (including shipping) was over a grand.
But they wanted an invoice if i wanted to prove the 'goods value' was less than $1000 to be tax excempt, which it was. So what they saw on the
invoice i sent was that the goods value was less than $1000, which excluded the postage value.
Fair cop though, goods value is goods value, postage value is postage value, and postage is a service not a 'goods' as such. In my case which is the
only case of customs withholding a parcel, they were fair and straight forward. Very slow though...
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