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posted on December 20th, 2014 at 11:17 AM
Electric Fuel Pump


Hey Dubbers

I want to put an electric fuel pump on the bug mainly for aesthetic reasons. Was wondering what people are using. Was thinking of mounting to the firewall behind the fan shroud and removing and blocking off the mech fuel pump. Any thoughts????

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posted on December 20th, 2014 at 01:23 PM



mount it under the fuel tank and use a rotory carter pump, 3PSI, Keep it out of the engine bay along with the fuel filter, also concider a fuel pump cut out incase of a accident. I run these on all of my cars. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CARTER-IN-LINE-ELECTRIC-FUEL-PUMP-30-GPH-4-PSI-5-1... if you look around you can get them cheaper than this price, what is wrong with your mechanical pump, if it is a standard engine i would not change it.
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posted on December 20th, 2014 at 02:11 PM



dont change unless you are going to wire it up properly with a cut out



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posted on December 20th, 2014 at 06:34 PM



I use the same Carter pump as above and this: http://www.revolutionelectronics.com/Fuel_Pump.html 



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posted on December 20th, 2014 at 08:36 PM



As VW060 says an electric pump needs to be under the tank, it won't last long at the back of the car, they are pushers not pullers and it needs a filter between it and the tank.

Also as Bizarre says you need some sort of safety cut out like tach signal, oil pressure or alt charge, don;t just wire it in to the ignition.
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posted on December 20th, 2014 at 11:37 PM



A CB Performance in line pump with filter sold by Rod Penrose is what you need. I used a rivnut gun to mount mine to the pan for a good earth.The CB Performance pump from memory was made by Carter anyway.It has good barbed ends for safe trouble free operation.Previously I used a low pressure plastic bodied pump from CIP1 that had the minimalist type of barb on the end of the pump..it fell to bits and left 30 litres of fuel on my mates workshop floor..lol
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posted on December 21st, 2014 at 07:50 AM



All good advice. Requires more thought me thinks. I agree, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the standard mech pump. I used one on my superbug 1916 with twin 40's with no probs whatsoever. It's really just about tidying up the engine bay on this Baja I've got in pieces at the moment. I really like the idea of the fuel cut out as well. I had thought about it but wasn't sure how to go about it. Now I know. Thanks Lads, more food for thought.

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posted on December 21st, 2014 at 08:30 AM



http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/130666407325?nav=SEARCH 
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posted on January 3rd, 2016 at 10:01 AM
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Hi there,
I am ready to put my beetle body back onto chassis but just had a thought. This is different to my kombi set up with a return to tank fuel line. Is it possible to not do a return to tank on the beetle if I run this scenario.... 1835cc with single 40 weber, electric fuel pump max is 4psi but if I used that in conjunction with one of those dial type fuel regulators can I get away without running a return to tank line?
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posted on January 3rd, 2016 at 10:13 AM



As far as I know a return line is only necessary for fuel injection?

I have run similar set ups with out return lines

I dont like the dial type regulators - too many fails




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posted on January 3rd, 2016 at 10:16 AM



^^^^^ fast response, ok so the ufo shaped regulators are out. I just did a bit of reading up on them. Well then maybe I go with similar to my setup in kombi with a Mallory and guage but no return line.



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posted on January 3rd, 2016 at 10:26 AM



I'm guessing on a single carb set up on that size engine that I'm looking at around 2 PSI ?



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posted on January 3rd, 2016 at 10:54 AM



2 PSI is a bit low. Webers like more like 3.5



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posted on June 24th, 2016 at 07:31 AM



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http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/130666407325?nav=SEARCH 


I like this as it is not linked to the tacho signal.

Where is the best place to mount one of these in a beetle? How sensitive are they? I don't want my fuel cutting out every time I hit a pothole or speed bump.
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posted on June 24th, 2016 at 08:14 AM



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I like this as it is not linked to the tacho signal.

Where is the best place to mount one of these in a beetle? How sensitive are they? I don't want my fuel cutting out every time I hit a pothole or speed bump.


this is what you want...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221360380478?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648&ssPa...






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