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| posted on October 9th, 2002 at 02:46 PM |
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VW gearbox drawings
Does anyone know of where I could find a decent schematic drawing of a vw gearbox (both type 1 and type 4 / kombi if possible) ? Something that shows
internal arrangment is what I am after.
The post about the vw gearbox with extended pinion shaft to convert to 4WD has me thinking. I am a mechanical engineer, and I probably have the access
to the people and gear to get this sort of thing done if I can get access to a drawing.
Thanks in advance,
Doug
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| posted on October 9th, 2002 at 06:54 PM |
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Doug
Looked at that today with dave Birchall. Hes actually has some nice A5 size drawings. The 1500 gearbox would work for conversion as the shift lever
comes out above the pinion shaft centreline. Machine a new pinion shaft with extended end with a spine and the slip on a universal joint and you have
it......Modify the endcover with a weld on boss for a lip seal (no additional output bearings required as the existing tapered roller bearing will be
perfect)
I like it, I'll photo copy some drawings to A5 and get them to ya. Whats ur address.
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| posted on October 9th, 2002 at 09:28 PM |
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I have pictures but not drawings
I'd like to see those A5 pictures though. Any chance of scanning them?
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| posted on October 10th, 2002 at 10:07 AM |
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excellent :)
Great - I was hoping someone would have some drawings. If you wanted to mail a photocopy to me, that would be awesome, my address is 2 cranshaw mews,
Atwell, W.A, 6164. Or alternatively, scan them and email them to me (sweetmd@az1.bp.com).
Next problem would be the front diff (I would figure on using a 1303 / 1302 with golf strut conversion). Any ideas on a suitable diff (need to be the
same ratio as the vw one) ?
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| posted on October 10th, 2002 at 11:41 AM |
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This is an email I got from a guy who built a 4wheel drive rally bug in the states. Check out his site for good pictures etc..
Hello Stephen,
I designed the nosecone and had a friend cut it out on a manual mill. The innards were pretty straightforward. The guy who does the VL6 thing in
Oregon told me about the bits that would make it work.
If you were to pay a shop to machine the nosecone, you'd be into them for around $1500 just for that.
All the drive components were reliable except for the gears in the transaxle. They couldn't handle the ~400 horsepower the engine put out on
18lbs boost. Then I got aftermarket gears and shafts from Rhino (Australia) and never had another problem. The front diff was a Datsun 280Z rear diff
turning backwards. I did run the driveshaft through the tunnel to a disconnect box made from another chunk of aluminum and using VW parts inside. This
was so I could disconnect the front diff for extended street driving.
Thanks for the kind words,
Dave LaTourette
Davesport LLC
425-888-5833
www.davesport.com
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| posted on October 10th, 2002 at 05:16 PM |
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Dave's car's rad. Imagine how good a 4WD Baja would be offroad! Just kidding
Did he ever measure the acceleration of that thing?
[Edited on 10-10-2002 by Baja Wes]
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| posted on October 10th, 2002 at 06:05 PM |
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Oh yeah..I like this kinda talk.....
The drawings are A2 or something, that is bigger than an A3 sheet (1 mtr x 1mtr ?)
I'll get em copied at our drawing office and get em to ya next week. 2 big to email! Looks like a 2ltr Kombi box will be ok as well, perfect.
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| posted on October 10th, 2002 at 06:27 PM |
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a2 paper is 2 a3 sheets side by side. a3 = 2 x a4 etc.
Jon
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| posted on October 10th, 2002 at 06:30 PM |
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4WD 1303S Overlander - in the making :)
Wes, great minds think alike. I miss the ground clearance of my '57 baja. I'm thinking 2ltr kombi box (or 1500 as previoiusly mentioned) in
my 1303, golf front struts, 3 " lift kit, 31x10.5 r15 desert duellers on all four wheels, and of course the 4WD conversion. What a beastly little
beetle that would be
Speedster356 - thanks a ton for the drawings, I owe you one. Will be checking the mail in eager anticipation every day next week
So a 280z diff has the same ratio as the 2ltr kombi box eh ? I would imagine that subaru rear diffs might be suitable also, ratios dependant ?
Doug
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| posted on October 11th, 2002 at 08:14 AM |
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Doug, just be careful using struts for offroad, they are very weak and will need reinforcement.
Speedster, I thought the drawings were only A5. A2 is a bit different. Are they to scale, or dimensioned? If they are I would certainly be interest in
a copy. I would probably try to redraw them in Autocad to make and electronic copy that everyone can access.
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| posted on October 11th, 2002 at 09:53 AM |
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Now theres an idea. Sounds like the drawings are A2, but either way, any drawing is better than no drawing (seeing as I currently dont have a 2ltr
kombi box to pull to bits).
Yeah I had thought about the strut problem. They would be good enough to get me going, but if I ever got serious about it you are right, I would have
to get some decent ones made up.
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| posted on October 11th, 2002 at 05:03 PM |
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Guys and gals, I found this shop on the web which has quite a good lot of assembly drawings (no dimensions or anything) of the various VW
tranny's.
http://www.longenterprises.com/diagram_folder/diagramlist.htm
Have a look if you are interested what is inside your transmission.
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