| [ Total Views: 1038 | Total Replies: 12 | Thread Id: 112200 ] |
|
|
 paslow22
Seriously Crusin Dubber
Posts: 109
Threads: 54
Registered: October 10th, 2015
Member Is Offline
Location: Lake Cathie NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on February 28th, 2017 at 09:36 AM |
|
|
Lost clutch pedal?
Hi,
My 71 bug lost the clutch the other day, went for a short drive, reasonably warm weather, short trip at freeway speeds both ways, 10 minutes each
way.
No problem until I pulled up at the lights off the freeway, pushed in the clutch and there was a noise, and then nothing, no clutch pressure.
I was able put it in 1st then the used the starter to get home.
I checked the cable at the pedals and it was still attached.
I noticed that the gearbox arm shaft has a small amount of movement where it comes out from the box, and a bit of movement side to side when the
clutch cable was removed and with no pressure on it.
Start the motor and no odd noises.
So I adjusted the clutch cable at the box and it went right up to just about the full length of the thread near the cable and I had pressure on the
clutch. So I spaced the lever and a locknut to just about upright and have about 20mm free play at the pedal.
Checked the car, pushed in the clutch and had pressure, started car went back and forth in the driveway all seemed normal with no odd noises.
Went out on the road with lots of gear changes, all ok, clutch felt normal, no unusual mechanical noises.
Box is a Scat pro street, car has only 2000klms on it everything is new, (not by me, previous owner)
I suppose I am hanging off doing what I must eventually must do and that is pull out the motor.
All ideas will be welcome.
Thanks
Darryl
|
|
|
AA003
A.k.a.: Phill
Custom Title Time!
Posts: 1189
Threads: 39
Registered: October 27th, 2011
Member Is Offline
Location: Southern Highlands
Theme: UltimaBB Streamlined2
|
| posted on February 28th, 2017 at 11:58 AM |
|
|
Did you pull the cable out and have a look at it? It could be that some of the strands are broken and the few left are stretched and about to
break.
It could be the clutch tube has broken the welds in the tunnel.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!
|
|
|
grumble
Son of Jim - Creator of Good
Posts: 2668
Threads: 53
Registered: June 10th, 2008
Member Is Offline
Location: Taree
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: happy all the time
|
| posted on February 28th, 2017 at 05:01 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by AA003
Did you pull the cable out and have a look at it? It could be that some of the strands are broken and the few left are stretched and about to
break.
It could be the clutch tube has broken the welds in the tunnel. [/quote
If it is not the cable it is internal,possibly one of the release bearing arms has broken off at the weld.
|
|
|
|
bevoracing
A.k.a.: Tony Beven
Officially Full-On Dubber
Posts: 324
Threads: 35
Registered: January 18th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Location: Mount Pleasant SA
Theme: UltimaBB Vintage
Mood: Leaning against the shed wall !.
|
| posted on February 28th, 2017 at 09:55 PM |
|
|
Interesting one. Lack of noise and some clutch feel would seem to exclude a broken arm. Broken strands don't last long and often jam. I'm with the
tube coming away. Please let us know what you find.
|
|
|
grumble
Son of Jim - Creator of Good
Posts: 2668
Threads: 53
Registered: June 10th, 2008
Member Is Offline
Location: Taree
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: happy all the time
|
| posted on March 1st, 2017 at 04:15 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by bevoracing
Interesting one. Lack of noise and some clutch feel would seem to exclude a broken arm. Broken strands don't last long and often jam. I'm with the
tube coming away. Please let us know what you find.
|
After re-reading the post I agree with Tony,particularly as since you adjusted the clutch cable it is working.
|
|
|
paslow22
Seriously Crusin Dubber
Posts: 109
Threads: 54
Registered: October 10th, 2015
Member Is Offline
Location: Lake Cathie NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on March 2nd, 2017 at 06:14 PM |
|
|
Lost Clutch Pedal
| Quote: | Originally
posted by grumble
| Quote: | Originally
posted by bevoracing
Interesting one. Lack of noise and some clutch feel would seem to exclude a broken arm. Broken strands don't last long and often jam. I'm with the
tube coming away. Please let us know what you find.
|
After re-reading the post I agree with Tony,particularly as since you adjusted the clutch cable it is working.
|
I have the feeling and with the information I received that it must be the clutch cable tube in tunnel, I have spaced the box arm to near vertical and
the cable is nearly touching the engine firewall, where I'm sure that it wasn't that close previously, I've only had the car 3 months.
Ok, now I have clutch pedal pressure and have driven it around using the clutch as much as possible and the clutch works as normal.
So how do you go about inspecting it for a start and what about repairing it.
I imagine I'll have to check in the tunnel at the pedals end and maybe at the gear lever hole, and at the rear rod linkage cover plate under the
seat.
I have my brothers little spy camera probe so that will come in handy.
Find out where it's broken away, cut into the tunnel and reweld
How many welds is it attached at???
Does that sound right???
Thanks
Darryl
|
|
|
Old Dubber
Wolfsburg Wizard
Posts: 605
Threads: 25
Registered: August 26th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Everton Hills, Brisbane, QLD, Australia 4053
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: great!
|
| posted on March 2nd, 2017 at 07:26 PM |
|
|
Have a look here, will help give you an idea of what's in the tunnel
http://www.vwdcqinc.org.au/insideabug-insideabug_63type1
|
|
|
paslow22
Seriously Crusin Dubber
Posts: 109
Threads: 54
Registered: October 10th, 2015
Member Is Offline
Location: Lake Cathie NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on March 2nd, 2017 at 09:10 PM |
|
|
Lost Clutch Pedal
Thankyou for that very interesting to see what's inside the tunnel
Darryl
|
|
|
AA003
A.k.a.: Phill
Custom Title Time!
Posts: 1189
Threads: 39
Registered: October 27th, 2011
Member Is Offline
Location: Southern Highlands
Theme: UltimaBB Streamlined2
|
| posted on March 3rd, 2017 at 05:53 AM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by paslow22
| Quote: | Originally
posted by grumble
| Quote: | Originally
posted by bevoracing
Interesting one. Lack of noise and some clutch feel would seem to exclude a broken arm. Broken strands don't last long and often jam. I'm with the
tube coming away. Please let us know what you find.
|
After re-reading the post I agree with Tony,particularly as since you adjusted the clutch cable it is working.
|
I have the feeling and with the information I received that it must be the clutch cable tube in tunnel, I have spaced the box arm to near vertical and
the cable is nearly touching the engine firewall, where I'm sure that it wasn't that close previously, I've only had the car 3 months.
Ok, now I have clutch pedal pressure and have driven it around using the clutch as much as possible and the clutch works as normal.
So how do you go about inspecting it for a start and what about repairing it.
I imagine I'll have to check in the tunnel at the pedals end and maybe at the gear lever hole, and at the rear rod linkage cover plate under the
seat.
I have my brothers little spy camera probe so that will come in handy.
Find out where it's broken away, cut into the tunnel and reweld
How many welds is it attached at???
Does that sound right???
Thanks
Darryl
|
Pull the cable out and inspect that first. I have driven long distances with broken strands and it felt normal once adjusted.
Get underneath and watch above the gearbox with someone operating the clutch. Look for any movement.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!
|
|
|
HappyDaze
A.k.a.: Greg Mackie
Son of Jim - Creator of Good
Superannuated
Posts: 2887
Threads: 141
Registered: June 13th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Location: Southern Highlands NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Happy enough
|
| posted on March 3rd, 2017 at 06:30 AM |
|
|
Always check out the simple fix first!
Do what Phill suggests...pull the cable out, and if it is partly unravelled, chuck a new cable in. Job done!
Don't worry if fitting the new cable takes a long time...the first time always does. 
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
|
|
|
paslow22
Seriously Crusin Dubber
Posts: 109
Threads: 54
Registered: October 10th, 2015
Member Is Offline
Location: Lake Cathie NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on March 3rd, 2017 at 06:41 AM |
|
|
Lost Clutch Pedal
Ok,
I'll pull out the clutch cable and check it out first and hope that's all it takes to solve the problem.
Thanks for the advice.
Darryl
|
|
|
AA003
A.k.a.: Phill
Custom Title Time!
Posts: 1189
Threads: 39
Registered: October 27th, 2011
Member Is Offline
Location: Southern Highlands
Theme: UltimaBB Streamlined2
|
| posted on March 3rd, 2017 at 09:41 AM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by HappyDazeDon't worry if fitting the new cable takes a long time...the first time always does.
|
After you have done it 20 or 30 times you become quicker at it.
It's even better when you find out why you break cables annually.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!
|
|
|
1303Steve
A.k.a.: Steve Carter
Scirocco Rare
Posts: 8621
Threads: 556
Registered: August 27th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Sydney, NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Parrot Heading
|
| posted on March 3rd, 2017 at 02:53 PM |
|
|
don't resort to cutting holes in the tunnel, that the sissy way to do it. Have a good look at the hook on the pedal as well
|
|
|
