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posted on December 27th, 2003 at 10:23 PM
Does size really matter?


Is there anywhere in here, or on the net, that I can detimine what size/type engine is in my '68 Beetle.
Sorry for the seemingly dumb question but VW mechanics are thin on the ground here in the bush.




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posted on December 28th, 2003 at 06:30 AM


Well if its a 68 and still a stock car then the engine will be a 1500 single port.

hope that helps.




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posted on December 28th, 2003 at 12:25 PM


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Well if its a 68 and still a stock car then the engine will be a 1500 single port.

hope that helps.


Thanks vw54. The running gear may be stock but the body isn't. If I could figure out how to post a pic you'd see what I mean.....convertible with a Porche body kit(?) and a VERY backyard spray job
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posted on December 28th, 2003 at 07:28 PM


Like vw54 said,but its 50/50 whether its stock or not,engine number will tell you what it was 35yrs ago,who knows how many linebores,piston and cylinders,and cylinder heads its had since then.Or it might be like my 1300 when i pulled it down still running its original pistons and cylinders but totally knackered.So in conclusion its possible theoretically that its a 1300,1500,1600,1641 and you cant tell which till you pull the heads off,OR SO IVE HEARD :D
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posted on December 28th, 2003 at 07:41 PM


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Thats Porsche....

yes it could be numerious size as far as the engine is concerned.

does it have one carby ??




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posted on December 28th, 2003 at 10:32 PM


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Thats Porsche....

yes it could be numerious size as far as the engine is concerned.

does it have one carby ??

I prefer my version (Porche) a 'Porsche' is the real thing :-)...and yeah only 1 carb with original oil bath filter...an empty bath when I got it !

Lugnuts....lets assume thats it's original, what size was it meant to be way back in '68




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posted on December 28th, 2003 at 10:36 PM


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Thats Porsche....

yes it could be numerious size as far as the engine is concerned.

does it have one carby ??

I prefer my version (Porche) a 'Porsche' is the real thing :-)...and yeah only 1 carb with original oil bath filter...an empty bath when I got it !

Lugnuts....lets assume thats it's original, what size was it meant to be way back in '68




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posted on December 29th, 2003 at 01:41 AM


As Dave said 1500 single port,whats the engine number?:o
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posted on December 29th, 2003 at 04:54 PM


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As Dave said 1500 single port,whats the engine number?:o


Engine No.F0583489.... and just for the hell of it...VIN 118997207




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posted on December 29th, 2003 at 06:05 PM


Thanks Ben...............



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posted on December 29th, 2003 at 07:37 PM


Hehehehe
Almost the sound the car makes when its cold yeah!!!!:D

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posted on December 30th, 2003 at 01:52 AM


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That engine case is from a 1967 1300cc.
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Bens right,36yrs ago it was a 1300singleport,like i said who knows what it is know,go on rip it to pieces and put us out of our misery,only jokin dude,funny thing is mine was a 1300sp for 35.8yrs and know its snot,and on a brighter note ile wager a carton of crownies that its not a 1300.This wager will self destruct at 12.01 New Years day.:P
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posted on December 30th, 2003 at 02:03 AM


Dam just had a STROKE of genious,i know how you can tell if its a 1300 or 1600 without pullin everything to pieces,EASY,take it to a dyno and if it makes 33.1hp or thereabouts on (SHOOTOUT MODE) its a 1300 and its knackered,if it makes 34hp its still knackered but its a 1500 and if its got over 38hp its a 1600, EASY.:thumb
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posted on December 30th, 2003 at 12:08 PM


Ok Grumpy
I got one problem with that.
My 1200 'Vee dynos at about 43Hp ATW.
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posted on December 30th, 2003 at 01:16 PM


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Dam just had a STROKE of genious,i know how you can tell if its a 1300 or 1600 without pullin everything to pieces,EASY,take it to a dyno and if it makes 33.1hp or thereabouts on (SHOOTOUT MODE) its a 1300 and its knackered,if it makes 34hp its still knackered but its a 1500 and if its got over 38hp its a 1600, EASY.:thumb



Hmm, one of my other driveway blockers is an old '78 V12 Jag with a Supra 5spd,and I was a real bastard I'd stick that on the dyno and send you the results :-)

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posted on December 30th, 2003 at 01:42 PM


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Ok Grumpy
I got one problem with that.
My 1200 'Vee dynos at about 43Hp ATW.
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Hmmm,43hp nice, dosn't sound like its knackered either.:thumb
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posted on December 30th, 2003 at 01:57 PM


hehehehehe
naw, thats reasonably fresh.
Its done a season of racing but I will freshen it up after new year.

We use a bog stock 36Hp carb (28PCI) so it is mostly in the heads and the cam lobe centres. Just gotta get the right combination.

Evidently, one of the guys here is getting 48 HP!! That is really big for a 12 with a standard cam!
The dyno we are all using is electromagnetically strapped and evidently close to the last word in chassis dynoes.
The operator is also well experienced and race cars are trailered from all over the state down to his tiny workshop.
So we hope we are getting meaningful results.
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posted on January 6th, 2004 at 01:49 AM


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Thanks Ben...............



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Don't panic - the only difference apart from the piston/cylinder set (which you'd change anyway) is the machining of the the heads, and you'd find the price of new single port (1500/1600) heads rather attractive once you added up the cost of rebuilding the old ones...
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posted on January 24th, 2004 at 09:40 PM


for a backyard paint job doesnt look bad at all! id be happy with that if it was mine and i painted it



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posted on January 25th, 2004 at 10:27 AM


Thanks but it only looks good from a distance, feels like sandpaper :)
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