| [ Total Views: 77244 | Total Replies: 111 | Thread Id: 18694 ] |
| Pages: 1 2 3 4 |
|
|
 MickH
A.k.a.: Michael Hutchinson
Bishop of Volkswagenism
Hairy Gutted Sloth
Posts: 3389
Threads: 29
Registered: September 6th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: TownsvilleTropical North QLD
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Grow a brain...walls don't hit back...
|
| posted on February 8th, 2004 at 10:02 PM |
|
|
POBJOY STEROIDS= 120+hp@the wheels
Here we go again......... 
tssnq.com.au
|
|
|
Andy42
Insano Dub Head
Posts: 709
Threads: 47
Registered: March 13th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Airlie Beach
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: 2.5t Subi Powered
|
| posted on February 8th, 2004 at 10:16 PM |
|
|
off the shelf for how much complete and running
.
|
|
|
wibble
A.k.a.: Warren Way
Wolfsburg Wizard
Freakinbuggied
Posts: 404
Threads: 41
Registered: January 24th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Cairns
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: #$!& the goverment
|
| posted on February 8th, 2004 at 10:18 PM |
|
|
alot!
|
|
|
Oasis
Custom Title Time!
Going alone...
Posts: 1806
Threads: 77
Registered: July 5th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Cammeray, Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Deep
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 12:19 AM |
|
|
That's double what my car puts out! Crikey.
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"
|
|
|
 Peter Leonard
Super Moderator
Volatile
Posts: 1456
Threads: 52
Registered: April 18th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Perth
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: shiny
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 12:54 AM |
|
|
shup craig
great now everyone's gonna want one  :P
let sleeping dubs lie
|
|
|
lugnuts
A.k.a.: Mike
Custom Title Time!
Posts: 1070
Threads: 88
Registered: August 28th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Sydney,Castle Hill
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: semi-retiring
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 02:05 AM |
|
|
What ^ said :thumb |
|
|
Baja Wes
Bishop of Volkswagenism
V6 Baja Pioneer
Posts: 3119
Threads: 94
Registered: August 26th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Content
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 09:25 AM |
|
|
hmm, maybe if I sold my whole car I could afford a 120+HP vw motor (not pobjoy specific, any big vw shop).
Then I'd have to save up to buy a car to put it in...
And I'd love to go back to carbies, a lack of heating, a lack of low end smoothness, occasional difficult starting, regular maintenance, a low
amp alternator...
hmm, on second thought's I think I will keep my V6 Baja.
Seriously though, 120HP out of a VW motor is great.
|
|
|
Boozer
Custom Title Time!
Demented But Determined
Posts: 1999
Threads: 129
Registered: December 30th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Redland Bay, Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: What the crap?
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 09:31 AM |
|
|
how did i know that one was coming?:P |
|
|
MickH
A.k.a.: Michael Hutchinson
Bishop of Volkswagenism
Hairy Gutted Sloth
Posts: 3389
Threads: 29
Registered: September 6th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: TownsvilleTropical North QLD
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Grow a brain...walls don't hit back...
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 09:49 AM |
|
|
wouldn't you get more than $7000 for tour car Wes?????:jesus
tssnq.com.au
|
|
|
Doug Sweetman
Veteran Volks Folk
Nil Bastardo Carborundum
Posts: 2128
Threads: 58
Registered: September 23rd, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Perth, W.A
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: sweeeeet 
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 09:51 AM |
|
|
yeah, but youd still need significantly more than $7k for a pobjoy steroids.
Wonderful motors for the rich and famous amongst us.
|
|
|
cray
Wolfsburg Wizard
Posts: 462
Threads: 64
Registered: August 29th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: east hills, nsw
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: ^___~
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 09:57 AM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Baja Wes
hmm, maybe if I sold my whole car I could afford a 120+HP vw motor (not pobjoy specific, any big vw shop).
Then I'd have to save up to buy a car to put it in...
And I'd love to go back to carbies, a lack of heating, a lack of low end smoothness, occasional difficult starting, regular maintenance, a low
amp alternator...
hmm, on second thought's I think I will keep my V6 Baja.
|
booooooooooooooooring :P
|
|
|
VWCOOL
23 Windows of Awesome
Posts: 5158
Threads: 235
Registered: June 19th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: In the shed... Lake Macquarie NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: happy to help
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 12:36 PM |
|
|
Fair dinkum -some of you blokes would whinge if you won the lottery...
This is close to the ultimate road-going VW that is capable of taking on and winning in weekend club comp. If you want to go fast without spending too
much money, buy a 10-year-old fast Jap bike. If, however, you want to have serious fun in a fast Beetle, set aside about 10K for one of these
steroids engines. That will get you
Magnum heads
94 P&Cs
Alloy big block case
CW Pobjoy stock stroke reinforced crank
Suitable cam and lifters
44IDF webers
reco rods
balanced
All machining
Assembly by arguably the best VW builder in the world
warranty
You need to supply late sbeetle engine for exchange rods, crank etc and accessories such as alterantor/generator, stand etc
If you don't want one, don't buy one and don't whinge about one. And I'll see you on the streets...:P
Pay your debts, CxxT
|
|
|
MickH
A.k.a.: Michael Hutchinson
Bishop of Volkswagenism
Hairy Gutted Sloth
Posts: 3389
Threads: 29
Registered: September 6th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: TownsvilleTropical North QLD
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Grow a brain...walls don't hit back...
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 01:44 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Doug Sweetman
yeah, but youd still need significantly more than $7k for a pobjoy steroids.
Wonderful motors for the rich and famous amongst us.
|
Crap....you don't know what you're talking about obviously....I've got a steroids that I paid less than $7000 for and a "standard" Pobjoy that cost less than $6200 complete with carbs
etc(full turnkey) Why spend the $$$ on carbs when you can have fuel injection as described in other posts on the forum??? Whats stopping you getting a
longblock minus tinware/carbs??Do you really need the alloy case?? It will always come down to $$ and how much you want to spend regardless of who
builds it. The final cost is up to the purchaser:bounce
tssnq.com.au
|
|
|
Gracey
Wolfsburg Wizard
Posts: 511
Threads: 17
Registered: February 6th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Beaudesert, Qld
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: Itchy
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 02:01 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Craig Torrens
You can now safely say a Pobjoy Steroids 1916cc is capable of 120+hp.
Thanks to CBB (Mike) for doing some tuning and Dyno runs on a Pobjoy spec 1916cc, they managed to tune it to 120+hp. This is the "off the
shelf" new steroids motor, running a street legal muffler as well as the standard pulley !!! So fit a power pulley and a race muffler and expect
even more. S0 how does that compare to the strokers ??????
Amazing what you can do when you Dyno tune !
Sounds like I have to book into CBB for a play :thumb
|
Woo Hoo!!! Good info Craig. Just wondering what changes did they make?
|
|
|
whatnow
A.k.a.: Henry
Custom Title Time!
Posts: 1000
Threads: 54
Registered: January 11th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: armidale, northern tablelands NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Streamlined2
Mood: 14's are the new earlies.
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 04:18 PM |
|
|
gee craig, anyone would think that you are hoping for a discount on your next motor....
they may seem like a lot of money but after riding in a car fitted with one and feeling the back end squirming under acceleration... on race slicks
(with the motor only getting 2/3's throttle due to the acc cable adjustment) it all seems worth it.
after that run i want one... so far i have been slowly collecting the bits for a few years and am still a few years off, but i'm willing to wait
as i only want to spend the cash once.
|
|
|
 vw54
Super Administrator
Always Waiting 4 Friday
Posts: 16723
Threads: 378
Registered: August 26th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Sunny Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Oval resto ongoing
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 04:25 PM |
|
|
Craig Is that carbies or EFI.??
Great HP if its carbies... can believe it more than the yanks HP output readings.
|
|
|
VWCOOL
23 Windows of Awesome
Posts: 5158
Threads: 235
Registered: June 19th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: In the shed... Lake Macquarie NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: happy to help
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 05:57 PM |
|
|
that was with carbies. 44IDFs
Pay your debts, CxxT
|
|
|
vw54
Super Administrator
Always Waiting 4 Friday
Posts: 16723
Threads: 378
Registered: August 26th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Sunny Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Oval resto ongoing
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 06:00 PM |
|
|
Is that your motor Cool ??
Thats great
|
|
|
1303
Officially Full-On Dubber
Posts: 250
Threads: 42
Registered: September 29th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Central Coast NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 07:59 PM |
|
|
That's amazing power out of an engine still using some standard parts (rockers etc).....must be more than happy with that!!!. What type of CB
044's ? are they CNC wedge,round etc.What compression? tell more....tell more.....
|
|
|
Alex Holzl
A.k.a.: Big Al
Custom Title Time!
2332cc of pure BALLZ!!
Posts: 1550
Threads: 85
Registered: January 20th, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: sydney, concord/mortlake
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: The peoples car that is faster than other peoples!
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 09:06 PM |
|
|
mmmmmm
may i please see the dino sheet soo i can see wheather you have your hand on the scales...????? |
|
|
Craig Torrens
A.k.a.: Craig Torrens
Scirocco Rare
6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
Posts: 8040
Threads: 347
Registered: January 10th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Time to go Salt lake racing, and actually achieve a result.
|
| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 09:23 PM |
|
|
Well Alexandra,
The Dyno tuning was done at CBB by Mike on a Dynamic Dyno using Shootout Mode.
I'm sure he will confirm for you.
Yes there is a printout, the owner has it.
And yes the Dyno run had several witnesses including Dave Stoker.
Just except that when it comes to engine building "Stan's the Man". And for tuning Mikes the man
|
|
|
Baja Wes
Bishop of Volkswagenism
V6 Baja Pioneer
Posts: 3119
Threads: 94
Registered: August 26th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Content
|
| posted on February 10th, 2004 at 08:29 AM |
|
|
man I think I am in the twilight zone, everyone is behaving so well
keep it up guys :thumb
|
|
|
Craig Torrens
A.k.a.: Craig Torrens
Scirocco Rare
6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
Posts: 8040
Threads: 347
Registered: January 10th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Time to go Salt lake racing, and actually achieve a result.
|
| posted on February 10th, 2004 at 09:33 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by 1303
That's amazing power out of an engine still using some standard parts (rockers etc).....must be more than happy with that!!!. What type of CB
044's ? are they CNC wedge,round etc.What compression? tell more....tell more.....
|
also uses vw conrods, and a counterweighted vw crank........... the specs are posted on the forum, just not too sure where !!!!
If you want to know more, maybe phone Stan Pobjoy 0266509616
|
|
|
Craig Torrens
A.k.a.: Craig Torrens
Scirocco Rare
6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
Posts: 8040
Threads: 347
Registered: January 10th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Time to go Salt lake racing, and actually achieve a result.
|
| posted on February 10th, 2004 at 09:42 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Ben Durie
Troy should be happy with that number,
great result.
but what was the torque ?
what gear did he use ?
what final drive ratio ?
Ben.
|
Yes Troy is happy.
Probably best to speak with Mike for all the FIgures etc regarding the Dyno run, as I was not there:thumb
I think 700ftlb ????? up from 550ftlb, does that sound right :jesus
4th gear with a 3.88 diff and standard fourth gear ratio. Troy has 7x15'' rims with 205 65series (I think)
As I said best to ring Mike, he apparently has Flywheel horsepower,torque figures etc etc
|
|
|
Kai.A.
Fahrvergnugen
Posts: 915
Threads: 76
Registered: September 29th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Adelaide
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: dubless...
|
| posted on February 10th, 2004 at 09:48 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Craig Torrens
I think 700ftlb ????? up from 550ftlb, does that sound right
|
hhmmmm...... unlikely:o
kai
|
|
|
Craig Torrens
A.k.a.: Craig Torrens
Scirocco Rare
6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
Posts: 8040
Threads: 347
Registered: January 10th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Time to go Salt lake racing, and actually achieve a result.
|
| posted on February 10th, 2004 at 10:02 PM |
|
|
Jetting !
|
|
|
jakriz
Wolfsburg Wizard
Posts: 560
Threads: 46
Registered: September 1st, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Hicksville
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: 2 headed
|
| posted on February 11th, 2004 at 12:15 AM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Ben Durie
700ft lbs nah,
30 hp in the tune up , what did he do ?
Ben
|
turned the motor on??.........................but seriously, this whole 1916 thing is just like the Governments new fair trade agreement, we're
all told how good it is but no one really knows whats inside it......
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!
|
|
|
Peter Leonard
Super Moderator
Volatile
Posts: 1456
Threads: 52
Registered: April 18th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Perth
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: shiny
|
| posted on February 11th, 2004 at 12:41 AM |
|
|
"blah blah blah blah I'm this & I'm that blah blah blah, I should have a big capital "I" in the middle of my name cause
"I'M" so great.................wank wank wank wank........... "
wtf?:jesus wacky sig line..
that'd make you "jaIk"
if you don't know what's inside it, you haven't been reading this forum...
let the flaming begin... wes spoke too soon
PeIter
let sleeping dubs lie
|
|
|
MickH
A.k.a.: Michael Hutchinson
Bishop of Volkswagenism
Hairy Gutted Sloth
Posts: 3389
Threads: 29
Registered: September 6th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: TownsvilleTropical North QLD
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Grow a brain...walls don't hit back...
|
| posted on February 11th, 2004 at 06:39 AM |
|
|
like I said before.....here we go again. Can't people just move on?? The motor made excellent horsepower. Good. We have been informed about it.
Great. Why start a slinging match???:jesus
tssnq.com.au
|
|
|
Baja Wes
Bishop of Volkswagenism
V6 Baja Pioneer
Posts: 3119
Threads: 94
Registered: August 26th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Content
|
| posted on February 11th, 2004 at 08:50 AM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Craig Torrens
I think 700ftlb ????? up from 550ftlb, does that sound right
|
Dyno's measure force at the wheels. So if anything it was 700 lbf. Then multiply it by the wheel radius and you get about 750ft.lbs of torque at
the wheels, but that has been multiplied up by the gear ratios, so it depends what gear it was in. Third gear is normal.
|
|
|
| Pages: 1 2 3 4 |
