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 his@hervw
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 posted on February 20th, 2004 at 11:09 AM |
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2ltr water cooling
Heres one to have you talking maybe,,,
Did a search but couldn't find anything on this. Temps up here have been 36-38 lately, OLD GIRL (van) is strugling with heat, rising to 130deg,
my vw man got me to try something. I was very reluctant to but a new motor was promised if it didn't work. Put a 20ltr container of water in the
back with a small rubber hose gravity feed though a drip feed tap into the fan. The fan mists the water which is sucked through and blown out taking
more heat with it than air will. Watched the temp drop from 120 when I turned it on down to 112 and then it never went above that. The amount of water
was a dribble. Turned it off before the engine, only have tryed this once. Was not happy to do it but it worked, imput please.....
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| posted on February 20th, 2004 at 11:32 AM |
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I tried exactly the same thing, with a flattened nozzle out of the tube to give a slight dispersion , nothing wrong with it & it does work well,
practicalities of normal use (ie shut off /switch on while driving, have been theoretically worked out but I have not bothered to go further with it
yet
I should add that I used a 2 litre bottle in the engine bay running on syphon & the 2 litres of water ran for ages
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| posted on February 20th, 2004 at 12:21 PM |
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What about water injection? I've heard that it cools and cleans and gives better economy/performance.
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| posted on February 20th, 2004 at 12:48 PM |
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2ltr water cooled
Glad to hear someone has done it before. If it was viable, i was thinking of a 12v pump with a switch on the dash that is turned on when needed.I was
amased at how little water was needed to lower the temp by eighteen degres. So thats one:thumb so far
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| posted on February 20th, 2004 at 12:55 PM |
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yes water injection does, but it was more relevent in the '50's & '60s when carbon build up from the far inferior oils & fuels
caused big problems ( removing the head for a decoke & valve grind was part of regular major servicing , it also gave a denser cooler charge, it
was also simplistic in it's operation & could be mixed with metho allowing people to advance the timing & eliminating pinging, I used it
in my highly modified Big Healey in the'70's & '80's, which would not run without it, these days however, it is expensive
& computer rather than vacuum operated & primarily used in turbo engines, not really an option
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| posted on February 20th, 2004 at 12:56 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by his@hervw
Glad to hear someone has done it before. If it was viable, i was thinking of a 12v pump with a switch on the dash that is turned on when needed.I was
amased at how little water was needed to lower the temp by eighteen degres. So thats one:thumb so far
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I tried that with a windscreen washer motor but could not stop the syphon effect as I could not get the water supply low enough
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| posted on February 20th, 2004 at 08:06 PM |
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2ltr water cooling
I have 55ltrs on the drivers side under the floor used for the sink, was thinking I could duplicate it on the other side, then it would be below the
engine. Not doing anything until I'm sure no damage would ocur.:jesus
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| posted on February 20th, 2004 at 08:16 PM |
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2ltr water cooling
I have a 55ltr tank under the floor on the drivers side for the sink, could put one on the other if I don't here of anything bad against
it.:jesus
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| posted on February 20th, 2004 at 10:28 PM |
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:jesus that is 55kg plus weight of tank to carry around in case you need it sometimes, it might be better to start off a bit smaller, the smal amount
of water you are running through the cooling system can do no damage, it is really just like one of those wheel around the house air coolers , any
moisture soon evaporates
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| posted on February 21st, 2004 at 01:21 AM |
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Hi
You would have to be careful that the plugs leads didnt get wet, leading to shorting & missfiring.
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| posted on February 21st, 2004 at 01:32 PM |
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As Kim say's in small amounts it's fine. If you start to flood water in there so it doesn't all evaporate it may also cause problems in
the alternator (the fan blows air through this also).
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| posted on February 22nd, 2004 at 07:06 PM |
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2ltr water cooling
Thanks guys for the feedback on the water drip feed. seems to have fallen off todays posts while the wiff floged the computor and taken it into the
AIR-CON bedroom. Andy,1302steve,kombikim
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| posted on February 22nd, 2004 at 11:20 PM |
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The results of this "Total-loss Evaporative Cooling System" are very interesting; it seems to make a very substantial difference.
The amount of heat which can be removed from the engine in this way (assuming, say 2 litres an hour....) is equivalent to the amount of heat to raise
2 kg of water from say 30C to 100C, plus a bit more to flash it off as steam, every hour.
Someone with an inquiring mind and a $2.00 calculator could work out how many kW this represents...can't be very many... and then we could see if
this would be significant compared with the total heat output of the engine, which I guess is of the same order of magnitude as the power output, say
30 kW when cruising....
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| posted on February 23rd, 2004 at 07:49 PM |
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2ltr water cooling
ummmmm:jesus
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