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| posted on February 24th, 2005 at 07:13 AM |
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Rear discs
just curious, has anyone considered using late front discs on the rear of a late beetle, like mine, if not can it be done? |
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| posted on February 24th, 2005 at 10:11 AM |
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no handbrake
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| posted on February 24th, 2005 at 12:05 PM |
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...just a thought...and its probably been said somewhere here before but...
the rear disks from a VP Commodore will fit with very little work...and this will mean that you can use the handbrake too...
My Brother is yet to install his VP disks on his Baja (as he is still painting stuff), but we have done a quick test fit (without using all of the
bolts) and its not going to take much....
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| posted on February 25th, 2005 at 11:17 AM |
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seagull and custom offroad offer XF falcon set ups as I understand it
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| posted on February 25th, 2005 at 11:49 PM |
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Thats right Pete, mine has falcon rear calipers and dbr rotors.
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| posted on March 4th, 2005 at 11:50 AM |
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could u not just get a different caliper that uses a handbrake?
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| posted on March 4th, 2005 at 12:44 PM |
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I intend to do a wander through the local wreckers disc pile with a VW shaft,
I bet there is a front wheel drive car out there using the same metric spline,
callipers are fairly easy to sus once youve got a disc mounted,
Theres been a lot of Jap front wheel drive cars invented since most brake conversions were researched and sorted,
Imagine, I find say a camry front wheel drive disc will bolt straight onto the back axel of my beetle, then using the caliper from a wide variety of 4
wheel disc optioned cars, and the adjustable bias valve off a Hilux, makes for an easy conversion,
The wreckers near my place has a huge rack full of various discs and hubs and they all have their origins written on them, makes the task a lot easier
than unbolting hundreds of discs.
I'll just have to watch my bores and strokes between master cylinders and Calipers and match them.
Did my old RX3s brakes with a set of Chrysler centura 11 inch discs and VH commadore calipers and that thing used to stop like it was tied to a
tree.
54 mm bore on Commadore calipers, same as mazda ones, but with much biggers discs it had a huge mechanical advantage over standard.
I had a friend that just pulled the whole strut from a nissan 300 zx and bolted it up to the rx3, which makes me think, why do we all try to make
discs fit cerain spindles etc, it would be much easier to make swing arms that accomadate different spindles etc,
No doubt its easier said than done but I see a lot of warn out old trees getting barked up.
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| posted on March 4th, 2005 at 02:16 PM |
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Working on a street-legal, four-wheel disc (vented fronts) brake package for Beetles/Ghias even as we speak...
I looked at front Beetle rotors for the rear years ago, but there are easier and less expensive ways of doing it, such as Falcon
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| posted on March 18th, 2005 at 03:26 PM |
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what if u have some rotors etc already?
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| posted on March 18th, 2005 at 04:34 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Herbie
The wreckers near my place has a huge rack full of various discs and hubs and they all have their origins written on them, makes the task a lot easier
than unbolting hundreds of discs.
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Which wreckers is that? I'm sick of pulling stuff apart.
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| posted on March 18th, 2005 at 04:45 PM |
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Some Subaru's had handbrake on the front. It may work off the caliper. 'L 'series
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| posted on March 18th, 2005 at 04:47 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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what if u have some rotors etc already?
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'having' rotors means you are about 5% of the way to having rear discs! Now all you gotta do is find a calliper than matches, figure out how to
mount callipers, machine/modify the discs to suit the drive plate and get it all to work with the handbrake! 
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| posted on March 18th, 2005 at 05:12 PM |
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Yatala wreckers, AKA Pacific highway motor wreckers.
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| posted on March 19th, 2005 at 12:13 AM |
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ok what if i have rotors spindles calipers etc, basically anything in the front setup, what more will i need? sorry if this sounds stupid but its
something i have had no experience in b4
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| posted on March 19th, 2005 at 09:44 AM |
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A Postpak, a few stamps and My address.
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| posted on March 19th, 2005 at 07:01 PM |
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herbie ill be up your way sometime soon, if u really need them i couldd be persuaded 2 part
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| posted on March 22nd, 2005 at 06:55 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 1stcarbug
could u not just get a different caliper that uses a handbrake?
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saw a beetle in an old australian vw mag that ran vw front discs on the rear, only memory is that the inside of the disc was machined to a flat face,
and the center where the bearings and spindles went was machined off/out to a point where it matched a type 3 drum (the big hole in the middle) t3
drive plates were then used. had a friend that used nissan pintara calipers on the rear he made the caliper brackets himself so ii imagine its not
too complicated, not too sure about handbrake set up. so i think the disc thing can be done. if you wanted i would be happy to look up the article for
more details. let me know here or u2u me.
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| posted on March 23rd, 2005 at 09:22 AM |
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aother option is to run 2 rear calipers. i ahev seen this done ( ainly on motokhana cars that are still street legal) this way you have the advantage
of a very good handbrake!!
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
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| posted on April 2nd, 2005 at 10:14 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Helbus
Some Subaru's had handbrake on the front. It may work off the caliper. 'L 'series
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you don't want to use these. they had the nasty habit of "relaxing" as the disc cools, allowing the handbrake to slip enough to let the car roll
away. the old subis were notorious for this.
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| posted on April 2nd, 2005 at 12:00 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 1stcarbug
ok what if i have rotors spindles calipers etc, basically anything in the front setup, what more will i need? sorry if this sounds stupid but its
something i have had no experience in b4
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If you have no experience with it you are probably much better buying an off the shelf conversion and driving away happy. The VW set up could easily
fit with many different options of hub and caliper. The catch is you need machine tools (milling machine/lathe etc) stock (the bits of metal you make
stuff from) and know how (on the top shelf next to the elbow grease)
I am not trying to discourage you if you really want to do it, go get into it, you will get plenty more advise. If you have ever gone down the
modification path before you will know its a long and winding road.......and its only your brakes.......
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