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| posted on April 12th, 2005 at 07:34 PM |
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Debiasi Differential
How about some info ? Lsd ? Locker ? Planetaries? Splines? How about for swingaxle or IRS BUS trannies? regards DB
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| posted on April 18th, 2005 at 01:06 PM |
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Ring them on (08) 8262 7533... They'll give you all the info you need to know.
They only get them built in runs of 10's. I'm up for one later this month.
T54
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| posted on April 18th, 2005 at 01:58 PM |
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I wouldn't mind knowing a bit more about it myself! Maybe Adam would post some details on here for us!
It's Free advertising a/way!! :thumb |
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| posted on April 20th, 2005 at 09:11 PM |
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Do they build spools or lockers and gear sets?
What else do they build and what is the prices and where are they situated?
Thank you
Hermann
2000cc turbo type 4, dragster (325Kw)
2714cc no turbo, no gas, street bug (140Kw)
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| posted on April 21st, 2005 at 07:45 PM |
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Hermann, Albins offroad gear makes any gear sets & diff centres you may need. Last time I bought 1&2 were about $650, 3&4 about $350 ea,
& my billet bus superdiff was about $750....prob gone up in price by now. Google Abins Offroad Gear to find their good web site.
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| posted on April 22nd, 2005 at 10:41 AM |
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yes they are irs type 1 lsd diffs to suit t1 out put splines
we are looking at doing lsds to suit kombis in the future depends on demand
we had about 14 made so far with no breakages- in my own street beetle which weights more than stock its done 3 years of drags[11.8], hillclimbs ,
burnouts and plenty of street miles with no probs.
they look like a work of art its a pity to hide it.
they are alot stronger than a quaife in the output spline [where quaifes break] the guy that makes them guarantes them to over 500hp
no we dont make gears albins do such a good job
the price is $1600- any questions call on 08 82627533 adam d
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| posted on April 23rd, 2005 at 06:24 AM |
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Hi Adam
Can you post pics of the diff?
Do you have any for s/axle? |
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| posted on April 24th, 2005 at 04:31 AM |
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also. does this diff work LS only on acceleration like the quaife. or is it decel aswell?
Anthony
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| posted on April 24th, 2005 at 08:06 AM |
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Craig, one of our Kiwi customers just bought a Quaife swingaxle diff for NZ$1400, I dont know from whom. Thats pretty affordable I think. I know Glen
Ruddick had a new one that he wasn't going to be using.
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| posted on April 24th, 2005 at 08:13 AM |
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THanks Dave
I'll keep that in mind for the future! My ZF will hopefully continue to do the job though!
Are the Quaife's better than the ZF's? |
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| posted on April 24th, 2005 at 05:29 PM |
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Hell yes! To make a comparison, if Arnold Shwartzenhiemer was a Quaife, Pewee Herman would be a ZF ! Not funny Craig?!...seriously, the ZF has gears
like a watch, its just a matter of time.
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| posted on April 24th, 2005 at 07:52 PM |
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for the last 22years i've only ever used factory zf diffs in all forms of motor sport with out a breakage, the swing axle zf lsd is by far one of the
stronger set ups and can be converted to use cv's..I know bergs drag car used a 091 zf lsd with great success, glad to know that my german watch is
still working. On a serious note any lsd is a step in the right direction if you enjoy driving |
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| posted on April 24th, 2005 at 09:18 PM |
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091 bus diff is a different story, but the spiders are still smaller than the open centers. Berg broke 2 ZFs while here in '95...not very cost
effective. The ZF is brilliant in its design, but never designed to handle much power. If you dont break it then you either dont have power or you
arn't trying hard enough. Apparently the swingaxle ZF (both versions) are much stronger than the IRS model, so dont worry Craig! Freestone has one in
his car & had no probs.I would guess, (abuse aside) about 300hp would be a safe maximum, but not for the IRS type 1....more like 150 at best.
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| posted on April 25th, 2005 at 05:52 AM |
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I have read about quaiffes being toasted, but this is the first time I have read about ZFs being not up to the task. Have you experienced failure with
one ?
Are there internal differences between the ZF IRS and swingaxle ?
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| posted on April 25th, 2005 at 09:22 AM |
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I wasn't that concerned Dave!! :jesus
Good German Metal !!!! 
Abuse! I'm a bit of a sook off the line, so that shouldn't be a problem!  |
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| posted on April 25th, 2005 at 07:01 PM |
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Adrian, I am not sure what Berg broke, but it was probably the spiders. Mullers were able to supply some spares to him, but parts are rare(expensive).
The one that I had trouble with was an IRS type 1. The spiders are only about 20mm in diameter. Ths shafts, the gears, & the splines all failed or
were about to. It was in a 12 sec N/A super bug (muff, street tyres, fanbelt...heavy car) This is now the car that Dieter Holzl is driving. The
replacement Quaife had the 002 bus splines, so was much better. I have heard there are two different swingaxle ZFs with more, (or less) clutches. I
have not seen inside them to see the spiders,but theres not much room. Perhaps some other peorle can post their experiences. In my own car I have only
used super diffs, but non dragracers need an LSD so at least there options out there.
[Edited on 25-4-2005 by dangerous]
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| posted on June 29th, 2005 at 10:24 AM |
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Hi All,
Another batch of these will be built soon, They only build 10 at a time so get in quick if you want one. T54
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| posted on June 29th, 2005 at 10:40 AM |
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Hi
I broke the output splines on my IRS Quaife, it was my fault, I was at WSID, the start line official stopped me because there was some stuff on the
track, I thought I was in the water burnout area and I wasnt, I know doing burnouts with radials is of no use but I actually wanted to get a bit of
slip on the start line with the water still on my tyres to presverve the box.
I bought the upgraded Kombi output splines from Quaife, they are much beefier.
Steve
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| posted on September 13th, 2005 at 10:11 PM |
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hi, i dont know much about these diffs but i need to do something to my 091 tranny,,, dont know either put a super diff? quaif or zf?
i will end up having about 550 hp at the wheels and in a bus. also were do you buy these and how much????
adam
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| posted on September 14th, 2005 at 10:34 AM |
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Ring Peter or Adam Debiasi on (08) 8262 7533, he is the one that gets them made,
He has told me that they can take up to 500hp guarenteed. What are you building
that is going to have that much power? Why in a kombi? I would be more concerned about the gearbox in general.
T54
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