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| posted on May 7th, 2005 at 09:11 PM |
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Moving the trans up (pics)
I tried to make good use of the fu.... winter time, as there is always room for improvement and played around with moving the trans up to get some
more ground clearance.
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| posted on May 7th, 2005 at 09:20 PM |
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I got me urethane trans rubbers and a stronger trans mount.
You see it installed stock, and turned around as my trans is moved forward some 2 + inches already. I added one more hole to the mount to get the
trans up. That gave me 21 mm,
then I added a 3mm alloy plate between the trans and rubbers. I wanted 5 mm but I had 3 mm lying around.
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| posted on May 7th, 2005 at 09:23 PM |
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And here you see the difference it made. I took the pics from exactly 2 m away from the car. Note the pulley wheel and oil filter.
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| posted on May 7th, 2005 at 09:25 PM |
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Good stuff!!!
tssnq.com.au
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| posted on May 7th, 2005 at 09:26 PM |
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And 2 more. To show what a difference 24 mm can do.
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| posted on May 7th, 2005 at 09:37 PM |
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You got to know that the engine moved up so high that I had no room for the wiring and fuel lines. Even the firewall must be cut again if I want to
ride it like that. For now I just left the 3 mm alloy plate in and put it to stock height again.
Will take advantage of it later on. This has to be done as the first thing if you are starting a conversion. I can change the height of the front
trans mount, as it is not stock anymore.
But it is possible to add a 5 mm alloy piece between the trans and rubbers without doing anything to the front mount
and getting some clearence. I hope it is helpful to someone.
[Edited on 7-5-2005 by subaruboxer]
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| posted on May 7th, 2005 at 09:40 PM |
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Is your front tranny mount urethane??
Do you find it kinda distorts when you torque all the bolts up?
Mines does...
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| posted on May 8th, 2005 at 12:13 AM |
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Great pics Subaruboxer, that's some really helpfull stuf there 
Does your suby engine hang only from the transmounts or do you have some other way to support it?
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| posted on May 8th, 2005 at 12:17 AM |
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front mount I made
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| posted on May 8th, 2005 at 12:19 AM |
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nice mounts
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| posted on May 8th, 2005 at 03:46 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Chewy
Is your front tranny mount urethane??
Do you find it kinda distorts when you torque all the bolts up?
Mines does...
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No, I still have the stock front mount on my trans. But it is now positioned under the pan.
And yes, my suby engine hangs only from the transmounts.
But I got a Cup Brace installed.
[Edited on 7-5-2005 by subaruboxer]
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| posted on May 8th, 2005 at 06:59 PM |
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@ Subaruboxer, where did you get that rear trans mount?
I checked my part books and some websites but couldn't find that one.
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| posted on May 8th, 2005 at 10:02 PM |
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what starter motor are you using?
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| posted on May 8th, 2005 at 10:09 PM |
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How do those anti-twist bars go?
Are they just mounted with heim joints?
Cheers
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| posted on May 9th, 2005 at 02:18 AM |
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I use a starter of a Porsche 914, is said to be the same as semi automatic bug (or how do you call those).
The Cup Brace is mounted between the trans horns and the
shocktowers. Mine is welded to the horns, I got the brace way earlier than the stronger transmount, which got holes to screw it on. Those transmounts
are pretty common here in Germany, every better bugshop offers them, in steel like mine or in alloy. Price is around € 60 for steel.
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| posted on May 9th, 2005 at 02:21 AM |
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The brace is available with even one more strut.
Slowness is an ornament, you are faster without it!
[ Edited on 21-4-2006 by subaruboxer ]
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| posted on May 9th, 2005 at 05:46 PM |
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I was lying under my bug yesterday planning this mod. Can you confirm that you have to remove the reverse switch as it is already very close to the
torsion bar housing?
Do you use the early or late nosecone on the gearbox? I have both to hand but the late one on the car looks like it would be very close to the torsion
bar housing if the cradle was reversed.
Do you have any pictures of your front mounting?
Finally, as your engine is single overhead cam I am guessing you can go much higher thatn a DOHC turbo engine. Does anyone have experience of the
limit you can raise an EJ20T?
Cheers,
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 05:08 AM |
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Hi Rich,
yes you are right you have to remove the reverse switch if you move your trans forward, but it is even better to change the nosecone. I use a1303 S
box ( I think you call it L-bug box) and put the nosecone of my stock ´65 box on to gain even more room.
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posted by ricola
I was lying under my bug yesterday planning this mod. Can you confirm that you have to remove the reverse switch as it is already very close to the
torsion bar housing?
Do you use the early or late nosecone on the gearbox? I have both to hand but the late one on the car looks like it would be very close to the torsion
bar housing if the cradle was reversed.
Do you have any pictures of your front mounting?
Finally, as your engine is single overhead cam I am guessing you can go much higher thatn a DOHC turbo engine. Does anyone have experience of the
limit you can raise an EJ20T?
Cheers,
Rich
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[Edited on 9-5-2005 by subaruboxer]
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 05:21 AM |
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I don`t have any real good pictures of my front mounting, but here is one to show you something at least. You can see the steelplate traversing the
panhorns at the very beginning.
This is holding the front mount, which is screwed on to it.
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 05:29 AM |
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Customspeedparts torque brace or kafer cup brace http://www.csp-shop.de/technik/pdf/eng/20917.pdf 
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 05:31 AM |
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And for your DOHC EJ 20 T engine I would build a removable rear with customized sides. It would make it so much easier to work on the engine and
pulling and installing it, like you might do when you are working on the conversion. It can`t be that bad to get the sides around the engine, there is
enough room to wheel side.
[Edited on 9-5-2005 by subaruboxer]
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 05:37 AM |
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I might do that one day, when my dailydriver (a Legacy Turbo) is ripped apart and I put the engine into a bug.
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 05:49 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 72RSbug
@ Subaruboxer, where did you get that rear trans mount?
I checked my part books and some websites but couldn't find that one.
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Its a Bugpack Heavy Duty Transmission Mount u usually get them in a packet with a strap that goes over the tranny with it. |
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| posted on May 11th, 2005 at 12:26 AM |
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I do plan to make my rear end removable, but not that much, I will cut it where the valance is normally welded to the body so the cut is hard to
see.
For the front mount I am slightly concerned about the strength as I have broken an early one before. Do many people use a Berg style mid mount for
this? If so any pictures with the trans moved forwards?
Good spot lugnuts, I was wondering where I could get one of those mounts locally!
Rich
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| posted on May 22nd, 2005 at 07:36 PM |
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Here two photos of the modified front mount. oops too big again.
It is probably a good idea to use a Berg mid mount with the EJ 20T engine.
[Edited on 22-5-2005 by subaruboxer]
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| posted on May 22nd, 2005 at 08:00 PM |
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