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 bajaben
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| posted on August 14th, 2005 at 12:49 PM |
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power estimates
hey, i gotta 1776cc baja with lightened flywheel and conrods and i have had an estimate of about 90 hp. running a single 40dcn weber. what power would
i be looking at with a set of 044 heads and and a set of dual intake quad throttle body fuel injection system thingys. im looking at turbo fuel
injection but don't know if im gonna have the money, and i can always turbo it later once i get the feeling for more power, its like a freaken
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| posted on August 14th, 2005 at 07:02 PM |
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What cam, compression, and portwork on the 044s?
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That's mad Alan.
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| posted on August 15th, 2005 at 09:22 PM |
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also doubtful u have 90hp now |
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| posted on August 15th, 2005 at 09:25 PM |
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I'll 'estimate' you have 65hp now...
Pay your debts, CxxT
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| posted on August 15th, 2005 at 09:30 PM |
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I would also run a full weight flywheel on a Baja for the extra torque gains........
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| posted on August 16th, 2005 at 07:22 AM |
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Well it depends on whos shop Dyno you run the car on.
lucky with 65hp
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bajaben
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| posted on August 16th, 2005 at 11:23 AM |
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stock cam and i dunno what compression ratio, i know its higher than stock, its a street baja so torque isn't a major issue since it has the large
ass wheels on the back. im looking at trying to get between 120 and 200 hp eventually. i just need a rough estimate of power, like within like 10-20
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| posted on August 16th, 2005 at 11:34 AM |
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im going to say most likely 65 with the rest of the boys cause i know my t4 bug is only about 80-90hp, and its a stock 2L. that and the highest hp on
the sydney dyno day was 150 or so and that was a turbo baja running a 1916 i thinknn[ Edited on 16-8-05 by barls ]
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| posted on August 16th, 2005 at 12:45 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Well it depends on whos shop Dyno you run the car on.
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Only if the operator doesn't know what they are doing or they deliberately set it up incorrectly to give a false reading.
That's why Dyno Dynamics beat them all. Lock it in Shootout mode (if the operator has the training and certification to get shootout) and you can't
fudge the results at all and they'll be exactly the same on any other dyno using shootout mode.
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| posted on August 16th, 2005 at 09:24 PM |
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I would stab in the dark and say 65 to 70 hp
depending on comp ratio and tune up.
It might make 90 with the two carbs, bigger cam
and 044s...but that depends on what the 044s
are like. Unported they may flow less than stock because the bigger valves are shrouded by the chamber.
The twin carb manifold will wake things up.
These guestimates are flywheel HP.
850kg car will run low 15s at around 85mph with 90hp @flywheel.
Don't be disapointed if it makes 75 at the wheels.
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bajaben
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| posted on August 17th, 2005 at 11:57 AM |
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so even with the cam, heads, twin fuel injection, it won't be that exciting? what about some new valve train and what else can i do to give it more
power without going turbo??? im gonna get a deeper sump and a 16 pass oil cooler with a thermo fan and stuff like that to keep it cool since im up in
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| posted on August 17th, 2005 at 01:42 PM |
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Go for something with larger displacement...or a radiator...Where abouts in NTH QLD are u?
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| posted on August 17th, 2005 at 04:08 PM |
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Just put a Subaru in it. Go see the team at Custom Offroad:thumb
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| posted on August 17th, 2005 at 08:06 PM |
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Craig, when is the 181 getting a subaru conversion?
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| posted on August 17th, 2005 at 09:41 PM |
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im also in townsville, and i don't have the money to put an ej in it. i have a stock wrx turbo so i may find away to put that into it somehow :alien |
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| posted on August 17th, 2005 at 10:30 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Craig, when is the 181 getting a subaru conversion?
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Never! it will stay VW powered:P
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| posted on August 18th, 2005 at 09:02 AM |
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I might put a Subie Turbo in my Country Buggy...
Pay your debts, CxxT
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| posted on August 18th, 2005 at 09:18 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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im also in townsville, and i don't have the money to put an ej in it. i have a stock wrx turbo so i may find away to put that into it somehow :alien
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we will have to get together sometime.Are you going to join the Manx Club?
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| posted on August 18th, 2005 at 10:54 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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im also in townsville, and i don't have the money to put an ej in it. i have a stock wrx turbo so i may find away to put that into it somehow :alien
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we will have to get together sometime.Are you going to join the Manx Club?
Mick H
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It's only me:P
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| posted on August 18th, 2005 at 11:53 AM |
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Ben, it will be a very fun engine and I think you will be happy with what you have planned.
If you keep the stock camshaft, I would try to find someone reputable to do some seat, chamber and then port work on the 044s.
With your big tyres, a small cam is all I would recommend, say C25 or W100.
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| posted on August 18th, 2005 at 03:08 PM |
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i didn't know we had a manx club up here and mine is a baja so i wasn't planning on doing it. when i fix the gearbox we will have to get everyone up
here together and go for a thursday night cruse, go for a strandy to show all the ajs we have a force as well :P
posted on 18/8/2005 at 01:53 AM
Ben, it will be a very fun engine and I think you will be happy with what you have planned.
If you keep the stock camshaft, I would try to find someone reputable to do some seat, chamber and then port work on the 044s.
With your big tyres, a small cam is all I would recommend, say C25 or W100.
thanks for the advice, im going to go with the twin fuel injection and get an oil cooler and deeper sump and the heads worked and stuff like that,
also disc brakes and a camber compensator and sway bar, then later on look at doing the turbo with the wrx turbo and see if i blow anything up :cry oh
well, can only try |
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| posted on August 18th, 2005 at 11:15 PM |
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then if you are going to do all that............a small cam is pointless.
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| posted on August 19th, 2005 at 06:23 PM |
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If your going to go EFI, turbo and all the rest blah blah blah you reckon, you will unload enough gold into that thing to have your Suby turbo engine
fitted for you while you wait.
The kind of horsepowerand modifications you are dreaming about does not come cheap M8.
If you want a reasonably close estimate of your road wheel power, book it onto a dyno for 15 minutes and you will have your figures on a bit of paper
in your hand.
L8tr
Enn[ Edited on 19/8/05 by tassupervee ]
Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....
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