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| posted on December 22nd, 2005 at 11:32 AM |
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Lower struts for Super Beetle
One of the original struts in our 1971 Super beetle is leaking. It has two nuts on the top holding it.
Is there a lower strut available for them?
Maybe a specific Golf strut?
Only want to lower the front about 2"
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| posted on December 22nd, 2005 at 11:41 AM |
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only options i know of are the adjustable ones that v-force makes or what squizy has done and get the cups re-welded 3inches, personallly squizy's
cab is dead sexy with the stance its got, ill be goin the same route if i feel a need 2 do something sooner rather than later but since my bugs now a
full on project id say ill be skipping that phase.
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| posted on December 22nd, 2005 at 12:03 PM |
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Try the sydney clubs website, there is a good article on this there. Also try a search, this topic has been disscussed numerous times. There are other
options to the ones listed above......
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!
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| posted on December 22nd, 2005 at 12:08 PM |
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i guess if you had the later type strut with the 2 lower mounting bolts you could get new ones from any old suspension shop cos its like a typical
strut design, unlike what ive got with the 3bolt ot the spindle then lower B/J
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| posted on December 22nd, 2005 at 06:54 PM |
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First of all read hear to get your mind around your options
http://www.clubvw.org.au/struts.htm
I thought you bought a 1500??
Anyway..... glad you have seen the light 
For starters i dont understand the "It has two nuts on the top holding it." it should have 3
The simplest way to lower a super WITH STOCK wheels is to cut off the cups and lower them
If you "just" lower the cup your strut will be under continual pressure.
Yes there are options of Boge or Sachs running a golf strut.
Seriously - your best option is to call Richard at V Force (or u2u Alex Holzl) and have a virtual beer with him.
He will give you all the goss
Seriously - your best option is to get a set of lowered adjustable struts for under a grand.
This gives you the option of dropping 1 - 5 inches in a early super AND running up to 8" x 18" under stock guards.
I am running 6" x 195's under stock guards with room to spare.
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| posted on December 22nd, 2005 at 07:08 PM |
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Actually you are right, I had committed to memory and it failed me.
It has three nuts at the top and three bolts at the bottom.
I simply cannot afford adjustable struts. I blew all our money on a Berg shifter for the bus. 
We are keeping stock wheels, no chance of changing that.
I have had to get a bit of mechanical work done so money is really dried up.
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| posted on December 22nd, 2005 at 07:10 PM |
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This is the original fuel line I had replaced as the 1971 fuel hose to the engine bay was still there. First thing I had to do to feel safer from
fires.
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| posted on December 22nd, 2005 at 07:11 PM |
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The back brakes were not real good either with both rear wheel cylinders leaking and one shoe having the bonding fall off it.
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| posted on December 22nd, 2005 at 07:13 PM |
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I will be putting new ball joints, tie rods and bushes in the front to get rid of the 'shimmy'
The leaking RHF strut is a concern also, and I suppose it is best to get that done at the same time. We want to keep it stock, but two inches lower
would be nice. Especially since the rear has sagged a little bit.
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| posted on December 22nd, 2005 at 07:30 PM |
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Does anyone have a pair of struts locally I can buy cheap, so I can lower it using the "cup repositioning" method.
This car is not a power machine, and is staying with stock wheels, so it should be ok. The Helbus, now that is a weapon 
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| posted on December 22nd, 2005 at 09:04 PM |
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the good thing is 3 bolters are much more common than 2 bolters
IF it is worth anything i am sure if you contact V Force he would lower a set for you and a set of lowered inserts as well.
The only other thing you might want to consider is heat treated springs (shortened - not cut) and new inserts and leave the cups alone??
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| posted on December 23rd, 2005 at 09:00 AM |
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I actually run 2inch lower springs in my super. Try king springs, they arn't in the catalague, but if you ask they can be made specially for you, as
they were a standard line in the past. I run them with koni inserts and they are fine. You can also get std height/stiffer, lower/stiffer and std
ones. mine cost me 200 about 2 years ago.
options are;
cut std springs
put in lower springs
put in adjustable vforce struts
move lower cup
i think pedders also said they can thread some std struts
if your just going to be driving about on the street, any of the above options should be fine, i run mine in khanacross and dirt sprints and with the
stiffer and lower springs and the koni sport inserts i do bottom out every now and then, but thats normally on really big bumps or dips etc that you
are hitting at 80km/hr......
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
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| posted on December 23rd, 2005 at 09:28 PM |
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i got 2" lower coils for mine and they are fine, they are also king springs/coils and were ~$200 ,12 months ago through Beetle Exchange in
Canberra,
i have had no handling problems or bottoming
if i had the money i would go the VForce option.....would love some big wheels
but the shorter, heavier springs are a good option for a street car
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| posted on December 24th, 2005 at 03:13 PM |
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Hi peter,
Tried to send these u2u but to big sooooooooo here they are:beer
Cheers Doc
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| posted on December 24th, 2005 at 05:26 PM |
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As the struts are leaking I have to definitley get new strut inserts. I can move spring cups no problems as I have all the equipment to do that.
The question is, Do I have to fit shorter strut inserts? They are available, but has anyone fitted them? I really cant affort the adjustable struts,
and as we are only going to run standard rims and tyres, should be right!
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| posted on December 24th, 2005 at 05:50 PM |
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The question is, Do I have to fit shorter strut inserts?
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the answer is - you should.
Otherwise you will be in constant compression.
Your call - it is a matter of do you want it done properly / to the best available.
If you wanted the cheapest / most acceptable answer i would "just" lower the cups.
As a mechanical person you would understand the differences.
Your call
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| posted on December 24th, 2005 at 05:52 PM |
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You are replacing the struts anyway.
Just buy shorter ones and do the cups and use the same springs
Proplem solved.
Stock nserts or stock Golf inserts would be about the same $$$
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| posted on December 24th, 2005 at 06:02 PM |
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I will do it that way.
original springs on lowered cups and new shorter inserts. That way the ride should be pretty close to what it was and the tart will sit a bit more
level.
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| posted on December 24th, 2005 at 08:25 PM |
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Peter, Barry has put you well on the right track as he always does
If cost a real factor try second hand golf inserts
I am sure there would be people on this forum that may have a pair and give them to you hint hint
Cheers all
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| posted on December 24th, 2005 at 08:49 PM |
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Hi Peter, I have some very good condition inserts for your struts (standard length). You can have them for free if you want. Just give me a yell if
you want them.
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