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 Volkswagenboy
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| posted on April 1st, 2006 at 08:44 PM |
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Damn Points Ignition!
I just went out to my Bug ta go for a cruise, started her up and backed her outta the drive. Suddenly KaPutt... No go. I checked out the points and
the follower had broken off!!! I'd be okay if they were old points, but they're a few months old!!! Stupid Made In India points!!!!!
Nothing an ol' zip-clip can't fix! But only temporary (Last time it happened I drove 80 klicks home with the dizzy cam running on a zip-clip.
Oh well... No cruisin' for me!!
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| posted on April 1st, 2006 at 08:47 PM |
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Simple.. get electronic ignition! Best money i've spent on my car!
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Volkswagenboy
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| posted on April 1st, 2006 at 08:48 PM |
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Oh by the way is there a cheap electronic alternative?
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Volkswagenboy
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| posted on April 1st, 2006 at 08:51 PM |
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Haha, ta jo!
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| posted on April 1st, 2006 at 09:38 PM |
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yep definantly worth going electronic, think of all the time you will save on adjusting points, timing, dwell twice a year. leaving you more time to
get the rest of it tip top shape. I got my kit for $70 delivered from george at classic vee dub, duno how much a set of points and condensor are worth
but im guessing the kit would pay itself off in the time you own your car easily.
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| posted on April 1st, 2006 at 09:48 PM |
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It would've already!!!
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| posted on April 1st, 2006 at 10:42 PM |
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Condensor should last a long time and generally doesn't need replacing, points ~$2-3 that would normally last ~40,000km. So, even if their $5ea and
last 20,000km that's 280,000km to pay for an electronic set.
I bought a set for my kombi and beetle a coupla years ago, but really don't see any great benefit for a stock setup, unless you loath setting
them.
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| posted on April 1st, 2006 at 11:34 PM |
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dont know bout you andy but my time is money and electronic ign pays 4 itself in no time also factor in the cost of starter motor rebuild as engine
with electronic ign starts better EVERY time chuck $70 at it itll
love ya
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| posted on April 2nd, 2006 at 03:57 PM |
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time is money :jesus
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 09:14 PM |
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just bought an electronic ignition. it says that the warranty is void if u dont use a ballast resistor.
as far as i know it lowers the voltage. can anyone explain why and whether i should use one or not
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 09:51 PM |
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My mechanic didn't want me to get electronic ignition for my Bug when I had points probs. If the car dies, it's a lot harder (if not impossible?) to
get the thing started from what I've heard.
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 10:56 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Pretty_Blue_Bug
My mechanic didn't want me to get electronic ignition for my Bug when I had points probs. If the car dies, it's a lot harder (if not impossible?) to
get the thing started from what I've heard.
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Just pack everything you pulled off the distributor (to put the electronice in) in a zip lock bag or similar and make sure this goes in your glove
box/tool kit. That way if anything ever goes wrong with the electonics you can just put the points etc back in, rough time it and away you go.
Sounds simple doesnt it.
Cheers
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 11:02 PM |
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Pretty_Blue_Bug with electronic ignition there's nothing for mechanics to routinely do.
its true that when the electronic ignition dies the car can't be started and it needs to be replaced, but the simple safeguard is to throw the set of
points that you remove under the rear seat for that occasion to get you home.
lauzboy, i don't know which one you have, but most that i've seen work well with typical coils for vee dubs that have around 3ohms (resistance)
built in, without additional ballast. find out if that applies to yours.
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 11:28 PM |
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I have a Jaycar electronic ignition [kit] that I haven't installed as yet as My engine goes and starts very easily..
It still uses the points and coil, but delivers a LOT more voltage to the spark plugs.....
The high voltage does NOT go thru the points so they will NOT burn, but they will eventually wear on the rubbing block... and need adjusting at much
longer intervals... than using the normal system....
but if My electronic ignition should fail, I just hook up the coil & condenser normally and drive away.....
I always use Bosch or Beru points... or any other German brand.... although can be made in Spain, Italy etc..
I suppose most will be Brazillian or Mexican soon....
I recently read that points shouldn't be opened much further than the normal gap, as the spring can break...
I've never heard of that happening before....
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 11:35 PM |
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Depending on what system is used Brendan...
Its NOT going to be that easy..... for most drivers....
What Laura says is correct.....
The RACV RACQ NRMA man won't be able to get You going with a Full Electronic Ignition failure......
With Points..... 99% Yes....
Its best to carry a spare set of Points, Rotor & Condenser.
Just in case... and something for the RACQ RACV etc man to use.....
Lee
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Pretty_Blue_Bug
My mechanic didn't want me to get electronic ignition for my Bug when I had points probs. If the car dies, it's a lot
harder (if not impossible?) to get the thing started from what I've heard.
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Just pack everything you pulled off the distributor (to put the electronics in) in a zip lock bag or similar and make sure this goes in your glove
box/tool kit. That way if anything ever goes wrong with the electonics you can just put the points etc back in, rough time it and away you go.
Sounds simple doesn't it.
Cheers
Brendan:
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| posted on May 10th, 2006 at 01:24 AM |
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I had a pertronics elec ignition and it died after 6 months. I changed it on the side of the road. It worked great when it worked though.
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"
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| posted on May 10th, 2006 at 09:40 PM |
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i had a magfire one die on me too
it was acautlly a bit doughy with it compare to points too and speaking with a vw mechanic he said electronic ignition needs to be timed abit more
advanced than points and i should run my normal 7.5 degree timing mark to the left of the flange behind the pulley instead of the case joint as
pictured
tried it with the new one and much better and no pinging anyone else had this?
Joel
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Volkswagenboy
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| posted on May 10th, 2006 at 09:54 PM |
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RACQ?
Who needs RACQ?!?! I'm my own mechanic, if I get electronic ignition and it breaks down (Chances are it will be less often than points) I'll be able
to fix it.
I've only had one experience with an RACQ guy, and he was useless as I ended up fixing it myself. They're told to fix it in a short time or get it
towed.
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