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posted on September 26th, 2006 at 01:58 PM
181 Spindles and balljoints


I was wanting to know who can supply 181 balljoints. I have just got myself a set of spindles and trailing arm but I need to replace the balljoints.

Also I have trial fitted a brake disc ('72 SBUG) to one of the spindles and am having a clearance problem with the seal on the back of the hub, The disc fits fine but when I install the seal it binds up. Do I just need to fit a seal without a shoulder or is it the disc I'm using, I could trim it back a little on a lathe.

Photo shows one of the reasons I have to replace the balljoints and why you need to line them up properly when you fit them.Don't think it would have done much for suspension travel.

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posted on September 26th, 2006 at 07:13 PM



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posted on September 26th, 2006 at 07:16 PM



I bought mine from ISP WEST VW PARTS & RESTORATIONS INC. in the US. Website is WWW.VWISPWEST.COM 

Part No:
Upper= 181405361A, $21.25 US each
Lower= 181405371C, $21.25 US each.

Shipping $44.50 US

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posted on September 26th, 2006 at 07:22 PM



thanks, did you have any clearance problems with the seal?



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posted on September 26th, 2006 at 07:27 PM



No, it fits fine.



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posted on September 26th, 2006 at 07:30 PM



Ok, I'll have to investigate that further. Prices have gone up, $45 US now



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posted on September 27th, 2006 at 05:07 PM



Got some from from COR for $58 each, here by friday and no hassle and wait with an OS order.



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posted on September 27th, 2006 at 07:52 PM



Wow they have them in Stock...............that's good to know.



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posted on October 1st, 2006 at 03:54 PM



I've put some comparison shots up for those interested, LH BJ and RH 181

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/mackaymanx/Thing/P1010136.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/mackaymanx/Thing/P1010132.jpg
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http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/mackaymanx/Thing/P1010126.jpg
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posted on October 2nd, 2006 at 11:15 AM



Pics of standard ball joints

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/mackaymanx/Thing/P1010129.jpg
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posted on October 3rd, 2006 at 04:41 PM



Had to machine the camber adjusters to accept the larger taper that 181 balljoints have( machined one is on the left). PO was using standard beetle upper balljoints.These adjusters are a bit ratty(came off a spare beam I had). I will probably replace these later, Just wanted to see how hard they were to machine.


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posted on October 5th, 2006 at 06:56 PM



Started on some caliper brackets today. Pic show progress so far.

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posted on October 5th, 2006 at 07:59 PM



Looking good...:thumb



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posted on October 5th, 2006 at 10:22 PM



mackaymanx I'm guessing you work for / own a machine shop. Some good work there.



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posted on October 5th, 2006 at 10:33 PM



I got the blanks cut, all I have is a little lathe. It's slow, I can only take small cuts but it does the job.



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Nice work:thumb:thumb:thumb



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posted on October 7th, 2006 at 04:45 PM



Here is one assembled with the dust cover installed. Will use socket head cap screws to bolt the brackets on later.

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posted on October 10th, 2006 at 02:24 PM



I have some comparison shots of the lower trailing arm, I haven't shown the upper trailing arm because I don't believe I have the proper upper trailing arm and even the thing specialist in the US swap them anyway.


First shot shows RH BJ and LH 181 trailing arms
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/mackaymanx/Thing/P1010151.jpg



This shows the difference in tube thickness of the arms, it should be note that the upper BJ arm thickness is the same as the lower 181 arm
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/mackaymanx/Thing/P1010150.jpg



Here is the standard BJ arm, modified BJ arm and 181 arm.I found that by removing the excess metal on the BJ arm you can fit the 181 ball joint( the 181 ball joint has a larger diameter mounting flange).
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/mackaymanx/Thing/P1010154.jpg



The shock absorber stud is longer, has a larger thread and is machined back closer to the ball joint, but the centreline of the shock absorber remains the same as the standard BJ arm. Extra lugs around the balljoint would just make removal easier.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/mackaymanx/Thing/P1010148.jpg




I can see no difference in the geometry of the trailing arms to prevent you from using modified standard BJ trailing arms with 181 spindles.



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posted on October 16th, 2006 at 09:19 PM



Custom Offroad have got them on the shelf. :tu:

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posted on October 16th, 2006 at 09:25 PM



True, but mine cost me less than half what they are asking. I posted the drawing for somebody on thesamba because I couldn't post it there.



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