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 Dasdubber
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Oil of choice??
I am curious if you could share your experiences and choice of which oils you use for both break in and general use?
I understand different engines and applications will require different oils. I find the following information fairly interesting:
http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html
This quote is from Jake Rabys forum site, and although he is a good salesman (as dave agrees!), I still find his r&d work to be very comprehensive
(even though it sometimes does validate his own products etc).
I see it though that a recommendation of a particular oil doesn't line his own pocket so I thought I'd share the info:
"If you are not currently aware of recent changes to motor oils, please be advised that the current API SM or API CJ-4 motor oils are not acceptable
for use in your air cooled engines as they were previously.
We have been closely monitoring issues with cam and lifters as well as bearing surfaces for many years now. Most recently, changes to motor oil
formulations have made these problems worse. After almost a year of testing motor oils and hundreds of observations, we now believe that an API SG,
SH, or SJ motor oil is ideal for both the longevity and reliability of your air cooled engine.
For all customers ready to break in their engine, we mandate using Brad Penn 30 WT Break-in oil. After 100 miles of operation or for those currently
running other motor oils, customers should switch to Brad Penn 20w50 for mild to hot climates; those with cold start up temperatures below 32F but no
hotter 72F ambient air temperatures, Brad Penn 10w30 is acceptable. Customers should adopt a 3000 mi or 6 month oil change interval- whichever comes
first.
Brad Penn Racing Oils are formulated with the optimal levels of anti-wear additives and detergents. In dyno testing, long term street use, and the
abuse of racing, Brad Penn has shown a remarkable ability to handle excessive oil temperatures without breaking down or forming sludge, with minimum
of viscosity loss, while protecting critical engine components. This makes Brad Penn ideal for use in all air cooled engines.
For those unfamiliar with Brad Penn, it is made by the American Refining Group, located on Kendall Ave. in Bradford, PA. That fact alone hints on this
company’s origins, as they were the original producers of Kendall motor oils we came to depend on for decades. When the Kendall brand was sold to
another company and Kendall oils ceased to perform to our satisfaction, the American Refining Group took over operations and renamed the product Brad
Penn. Unfortunately it has taken us so many years to discover this long lost friend."
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| posted on August 15th, 2007 at 09:33 PM |
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zoom did an oil comparison many moons ago and many of the boutique oils did not perform to the same levels as the brand name ones (mobile 1 was the
winner). I can't really comment on all things air-cooled but I have heard that they are similar to v8's in that clearances are a little on the
loose side and as such an oil with a high base viscosity like a 50 is suitable. The old guy that told me this swore by stuff called quaker state. |
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| posted on August 15th, 2007 at 09:48 PM |
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Good quality oil for both.
I use Castrol Formulae R (the old GP50) 
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| posted on August 15th, 2007 at 09:58 PM |
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I have been using Castrol GTX for 20 odd years, no problems
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| posted on August 15th, 2007 at 11:37 PM |
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Brad Penn... isn't he in movies?!
For more than a decade (maybe two!) and about 500,000 log-booked km Castrol GTX2 in everything I own - Holden/HSV V8s, Ford, Nissan and stock VWs.
Castrol GP50/Formula R/Edge (they keep changing the name!) in the hottie 1916 because the engine builder says so :thumb
[ Edited on 15-8-2007 by VWCOOL ]
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| posted on August 16th, 2007 at 05:56 AM |
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Penrite oils for my high revving Jap cars in their semi synthetic and synthetic range.
But in the VW's I use Fuchs as after all it is a recommended oil for use by Porshce..
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| posted on August 16th, 2007 at 07:05 AM |
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I have used GP50 and now use Castrol Edge Sport 25W/50.
It my other engine with tighter oil clearances,
I use Castrol GTX3 which is 15W40 from memory.
[ Edited on 15-8-2007 by dangerous ]
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| posted on August 16th, 2007 at 07:13 AM |
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I have been following along with great interest also the findings of Aircooled technology and LN Engineering. These guys do some serious research.
Lately i have been using Castrol Edge 25-50W as it says on the bottle for big bore engines and radical cam profiles, also the fact sheet on the
castrol site reccomends this oil for big aircooled motor bikes. After spending an hour at the autoparts store and reading all the tech info on each
bottle i settled with the above oil. When i get back from Canada i should have a better understanding as i will be visiting Jake Raby and his
business AIrcooled Technology and i will be asking all the questions.
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| posted on August 16th, 2007 at 09:11 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 66deluxe
When i get back from Canada i should have a better understanding as i will be visiting Jake Raby and his business AIrcooled Technology and i will be
asking all the questions.
Damo.
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Make sure you go in with an open mind Damo,
and use your own judgment after weighing up all the hype and so called R&D.
Some information will be actual benefit and some will be imaginary.
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That's mad Alan.
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| posted on August 16th, 2007 at 10:44 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by dangerous
| Quote: | Originally
posted by 66deluxe
When i get back from Canada i should have a better understanding as i will be visiting Jake Raby and his business AIrcooled Technology and i will be
asking all the questions.
Damo.
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Make sure you go in with an open mind Damo,
and use your own judgment after weighing up all the hype and so called R&D.
Some information will be actual benefit and some will be imaginary.
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lol...very good advice, Dangerous!
Pay your debts, CxxT
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| posted on August 16th, 2007 at 12:40 PM |
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Thanks for the advice Dave:thumb, but you know me i have always had an open mind.
This is my Volkswagen, there are many like it, but this one is mine. Without me my Volkswagen is useless, without my Volkswagen, I am useless.
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| posted on August 16th, 2007 at 06:31 PM |
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I use (agip sint) nick name is black gold:thumb
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| posted on August 16th, 2007 at 10:04 PM |
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i have tried diferent oils on dyno days in one of my vw's,the only difference i found was extra heat.
the thinner oils were good until the car got hot,the temp difference was around 10 degree's.most of the expesive oils just don't cut the mustard in
vw's.the good old 20 50w oils worked best.
down sharon.
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| posted on August 20th, 2007 at 04:12 PM |
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castrol has always been good! shell is up there too
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