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 AIE73T
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| posted on December 17th, 2007 at 01:39 PM |
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Fix it or sell it ???
Hi All
I have a 99 Passat 4WD. It needs the half moon gaskets and rear main seals replaced for the leaking oil bits (from what I can see)
It also needs new front disc and pads.
I can get the parts from US pretty cheap ... however its going to cost a fair bit getting it fixed here in Sydney.
So does anyone know a cheap mechanic (maybe someone looking for weekend work)
Or should I just sell it and be rid of my problems ???
Does anyone else know of any problems that may arise ???
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| posted on December 17th, 2007 at 01:46 PM |
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Well, if you sell every car that you buy that needs new discs and pads and a bit of maintenance, you are going to buy and sell a lot of cars.
Why not fix it yourself?
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| posted on December 18th, 2007 at 05:39 PM |
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why does it need new discs and pads ?you can get them machined ,and then put on new pads ,,,,,if you were to sell it you would have to tell the buyer
whats wrong ,well you should especially if theres brake problems ,then you will loose a lot of the resale price ,,,,the seal your talking about is it
in the engine or gearbox ? if its the gearbox rear seal you should be able to change it yourself pretty easy ,,,,,
BETTER TO BE THOUGHT A FOOL THAN TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT:puke
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| posted on December 19th, 2007 at 02:04 PM |
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The front disc can't be machined anymore. Its pretty much to the point of no return. Fitting these myself isn't really a problem.
However my mechanical knowledge is limited. I know where the real main seal is ... but I wouldn't know how to take the gearbox out.
As for the half moon gaskets ... they are behind the cams ... VW has a tool that makes it easy to change ... I can get it from the states ... VW Aus
(only asked one dealer) claims there is no such tool and to do the job they have to take the cams out and replace the seals that way. So again my
mechanical knowledge only goes so far.
If I get my mechanic (not a dealer) to fix it ... its gonna cost a couple of grand. His suggestion was I sell the car because one problem ususally
leads to another and another.
I kinda like the car ... but I am wary that if I keep it .. then its gonna put a hole in my bank account.
Is there anyone here that is willing to help out at a fraction of the cost ??
BTW - There were 18inch wheels that came with the car ... they are really scratched ... so I gotta get them repainted. Does anyone spray paint here ??
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| posted on December 19th, 2007 at 02:16 PM |
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A good starting point is some sort of manual. Sometimes these can be found online.
I rebuilt my 1990 M5 engine after I saw what a supposed BMW specialist had done to it - he'd bodged a head gasket replacement. I searched out all
the information I could on the net, got a semi-retired mate who was trained as a Rolls Royce mechanic as an apprentice to help me (not that it
related much to the Bimmer - but he was more mechanically aware than me) - and followed the book. Another mate had his engine redone at the same time
- and that "expert" charged him $5k for labour (total $15k). Mine cost me all up $10k. His went wrong almost immediately and he has now spent
$25k. Mine's quicker too.
One tool incidentally, BMW wanted $400+GST for (shimming tool) - I made one for $30 and ten minutes on a bench grinder.
See if you can find a semi-retired person to help you. Where are you?
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| posted on December 19th, 2007 at 02:58 PM |
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$400 plus for a tool ... isn't it ridiculous what the dealers do. What I can't understand is why so many people bring their cars back to a dealer
just for a general service.
I logged onto passatworld to get some feedback .. and it seems the guys in the US pay half the price for labour and parts. Thats from a dealer too ..
for an independant they pay even less. But then again I guess they have the population to sustain cheaper prices.
Unfortunately I don't know any semi retired or weekend mechanics ... if you (or whoever is reading this) can help me out that would be great.
I am located on the North Shore of Sydney. My email is lauchiyuen@gmail.com
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| posted on December 19th, 2007 at 07:56 PM |
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yeah keep the car and try to get it fixed. at ;east u'll know what's been broken and what's ben fixed. u know your own car. but if u get a 2nd hand
one it's an other hole different story. i know coz i fell for it. had a nice comfy 4x4 . was using so much petrol be the en that i thought i would b
better off selling it. then i realized all i had to do is get the injectors cleaned
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| posted on December 19th, 2007 at 08:32 PM |
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If I sell this i'll get something new .. or with 40K max .. something like a corolla or the likes 
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| posted on December 19th, 2007 at 09:37 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by AIE73T
something like a corolla or the likes
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| posted on December 20th, 2007 at 01:20 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by matberry
| Quote: | Originally
posted by AIE73T
something like a corolla or the likes
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I know ... save me from my sorrows :'(
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| posted on December 20th, 2007 at 04:46 PM |
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Try some of that engine oil 'stop leak' goop - you may be surprised
Pay your debts, CxxT
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| posted on December 20th, 2007 at 09:24 PM |
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All VW's leak oil. Nothing to worry about... 
If it stops leaking, it's time for a re-fill.
If you can't fix it with a hammer,
you have an electrical problem....
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| posted on December 21st, 2007 at 10:27 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Notch Nut
All VW's leak oil. Nothing to worry about...
If it stops leaking, it's time for a re-fill.
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It actually becomes quite bad at times ... just sitting at the lights the oil is obviously leaking onto the manifold .. and then there is all this
burnt oil smoke thats coming up from the bonnet.
VWCool .. actually ... I might try some of that stuff ..it can't hurt .. but the problems gotta be fixed sooner or later.
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| posted on December 22nd, 2007 at 10:42 AM |
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if its leaking on the manifold wouldnt it be a tappit gasket thats leaking,there not hard too fix ,just take off the tappit cover give everything a
clean and put on some aircraft sealant on both sides of the gasket ,an easy job ,,,,
BETTER TO BE THOUGHT A FOOL THAN TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT:puke
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| posted on December 24th, 2007 at 10:58 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by aussiebaja
if its leaking on the manifold wouldnt it be a tappit gasket thats leaking,there not hard too fix ,just take off the tappit cover give everything a
clean and put on some aircraft sealant on both sides of the gasket ,an easy job ,,,,
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I'm assuming its leaking onto the manifold ... because of the burning oil smell ... and when its bad .. the smoke arising from the bonnet.
I read on the passatworld forums that the 'buring smell' is a big indicator that its the cam chain/half moon seals problem .. which 6seems to be
common on the V6's.
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| posted on December 27th, 2007 at 06:57 PM |
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I'm not familiar with the passat engine, but uslally the half moons are obviously half moon shaped bits of rubber that fill up the holes left in the
top face of the head from where the cam bearings are machined out. Toyota use alloy ones, everyone else uses rubber. usually cam cover off, new half
moons and gasket, bit of sealant, and back together.
rear main isnt an issue unless it starts pouring out, but I dont think I've ever seen a car that bad.
try tighytening the cam cover bolts/nuts a little, that may seal up the leak enough to stop the smoking at the lights at least.
Danielles beetle is back of the road for its makeover, and I got the job of project manager/head mechanic/artistic advisor/ideas man.
and somehow she got a type 3, which is all good, because I got 'Victa' the 'spare parts Type 3'
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| posted on December 27th, 2007 at 07:14 PM |
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most tappit gaskets have them built in ,some dont but if you just take off the tappit cover you should be able to change them very easily ,,
BETTER TO BE THOUGHT A FOOL THAN TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT:puke
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