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 68AutoBug
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Anyone use type 3 cooling tin in type 1 engine?
I have always had type 3 cooling tin on My type 1 engine
Only thing I don't like . is that its chromed...
Anyone else run type 3 cylinder cooling tinware on a type 1 upright engine?
Any comments ??
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| posted on January 6th, 2008 at 12:17 PM |
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huh?
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| posted on January 6th, 2008 at 12:46 PM |
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wtf? do u mean under the cylinders ie; deflectors???
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| posted on January 6th, 2008 at 12:46 PM |
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Hi
I think they call them cool tins, there has been some debate on other forums about their usefulness.
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| posted on January 6th, 2008 at 02:24 PM |
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Yes, the proper name would be type 3 air deflectors that sit under the cylinders...
the ones on a beetle engine are roughly just a square piece of sheet metal...
that sits under the cylinders...
the type 3 cool tin is a much more complicated piece of tin wear...
but it was never used on beetle engines??
I'm thinking of taking mine off and replacing them with the standard beetle type..
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| posted on January 6th, 2008 at 02:31 PM |
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better than none I reckon.
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| posted on January 6th, 2008 at 02:56 PM |
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Hi Lee
There must be a reason that VW never fitted them to type 1 or 2 motors.
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| posted on January 6th, 2008 at 03:07 PM |
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Yes Steve
I've been thinking that...
seeing the fan is different and in a different place..
so maybe type 3 cool tin is for type 3s only...
I'll replace them with type 1 cool tin..
Lee
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| posted on January 7th, 2008 at 04:45 AM |
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posted by 68AutoBug
Yes Steve
I've been thinking that...
seeing the fan is different and in a different place..
so maybe type 3 cool tin is for type 3s only...
I'll replace them with type 1 cool tin..
Lee
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they were used on kombi motors too.........
you won't get the cool tins off without the engine out and the heads removed 
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| posted on January 7th, 2008 at 05:49 AM |
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Ive been using them do appear to have any probs ??
they do make the air flow more direct and surround the barrels
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| posted on January 7th, 2008 at 09:05 AM |
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Hi
I guess its no accident that Type 3 motors and Type 4 motors both have horizontal cooling air flow from a crank mounted fan and both need elaborate
under cylinder tin ware.
Steve
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| posted on January 7th, 2008 at 09:13 AM |
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Also interesting to note that early Type 3 motors used the type 1 under cylnder tin also.
Since the info about the under cylinder tin came from VW it may help to take their advice,
but I would not go ripping into your engine just to change that.
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| posted on January 7th, 2008 at 09:27 AM |
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| posted on January 7th, 2008 at 09:35 AM |
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Hi
Another problem faced when you fit these, is most original Type 3 tins were set-up for 10 mm head studs, if you fit these to 8 mm they rattle around
unless steps are taken change the stud hole size.
Care must also be taken when fitting them to larger than stock cylinders as they can interfere with the fins and not allow proper head sealing or push
the pushrod tubes away.
Steve
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| posted on January 7th, 2008 at 09:40 AM |
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They will fit the 8mm studs but require a lot of tweaking
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| posted on January 7th, 2008 at 10:11 AM |
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Lee,
Here is a discussion on the subject from almost a year ago, there is also a link in it to experiments done by Jake Raby using both types of tin. He
reckons there's not much advantage with type 3 tin in a type 1 setup & others reckon that in a type 1 the type 3 tins can more easily collect
muck ( dust stuck to oil) and actually make things hotter.
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60085&page=1#pid569479
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| posted on January 7th, 2008 at 06:42 PM |
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Thanks Matt,
I have the engine out and I'm going to replace the type 3 cool tin with standard tinware for a type 1..
Lee
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