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posted on February 18th, 2008 at 08:21 PM
project notchback - painted - engine next


I am going to post the progress on my VW for what I hope will be your viewing enjoyment.

For starters it's based on a 67/68 type 3 notchback which was my first car given to me in 1988. It was bought from the original owners' daughter (deceased estate) who found it "too powerful" compared to her Morris 1000. Ha! I bought it with 42000 miles on it. Have only put on another 5000 since I've owned it. I didn't think a lot of it for a while and even bought another car - a VC Commodore - to drive instead. I am so glad I finally saw the light and came back to VW's. I have owned and driven many pieces of shit and older vehicles over the years which has given me a decent understanding of how to fix cars, especially since I have always done my own repair work on them. This includes a 68 Beetle,a 76 convertible, a 64 notch and a 76 camper.

After going through my holden and then ford phases and having owned 12 cars in all I decided to go back and "do up" my old car as I had planned to do with the old man. I started that 6 years ago.........

Various setbacks from lack of finance or lack of time have seen long delays in this project but the time has come to at least get it out of the garage and onto the street. More work will be done in the future according to the time / dollar ratio. It's safe to say that this will never be truly finished.

This car is now my #1 hobby and I thought I should share some of the progress with you guys. If you are looking for a "Dasdubber" kind of rebuild you won't find it here. That guy is on a whole other level! I am a home enthusiast with a passion for my VW - nothing more.

So with that said I know there will be various comments about my choices and methods and the fact that I didn't just keep it original! I can handle criticism.

Pics to start once I work out how!




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posted on February 18th, 2008 at 09:26 PM



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Originally posted by type3lover
This car is now my #1 hobby and I thought I should share some of the progress with you guys. If you are looking for a "Dasdubber" kind of rebuild you won't find it here. That guy is on a whole other level! I am a home enthusiast with a passion for my VW - nothing more.

Pics to start once I work out how!


Looking forward to the pics and progress mate - let me know if you get stuck with the pics, but either make sure they are under 100kb if you want to attach them to the post with the "browse" function below the text box....or otherwise open up a photobucket account (free and easy) and then link from there (can give advice if required).

On another note, thanks for the kind words....but remember I am self taught with only patience and perseverence to hone my skills to the point they are at today. My only advice is to try and map out a plan early on and do your best to adhere to it - if you can't see the final vision of what you're trying to create, it just won't happen. When you're down and out and spend weekends and weekends of work and it looks like you've achieved nothing, your strength of committment will have to shine through. Feedback from people on here helps a lot as well! You've seen the error of your ways (VC commo etc), so your first step in the life of a vw restorer is already taken!

Best of luck, sorry for the long spiel!
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posted on February 20th, 2008 at 06:31 PM



Thanks Al ! I can tell you that the "plan"has changed so many times I can't remember...most of it has been moving forward luckily.

I have a lot of photos. Should I make them smaller to load a bit quicker

Photos of the car before I started to have my wicked way with it...

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/Alfred_original_1.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/Alfred_original_2.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/Alfred_original_3.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/Alfred_original_4.jpg


I wish I had taken more...




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posted on February 20th, 2008 at 07:05 PM



With the help and advice of Jeff and Shimo from the former Hellbug Engineering I did the following jobs on the car back in 2001/02...

-IRS conversion modifying my original framehorn and welding the brackets on to accept the late type 3 IRS diagonal arms.

- Station wagon torsion bars - the thicker ones.

- Front disc conversion using type 4 discs and rebuilt late type 3 calipers. NB: Although the car was a 68 model it had many traits of the 67 including drum brakes all round. They were scary man especially on the freeway at night in the wet with a bigass semi trying to push me to go faster!

- 4 stud bolt pattern - i still can't believe i sent all my old wide 5 stuff to the tip...I'll never forgive myself.

- Gearbox rebuild taken from a 72 beetle with IRS with taller gears, good second hand CV joints (picked a lot from the yard and used the best ones).

- All new wheel bearings etc, polyurethane bushes all round, kombi bump stops on the rear and lowered.

- Engine rebuild to a 1776cc.
Stockish reconditioned motor with new mahle "forged" pistons and cylinders 90.5mm, balanced std 12v beetle crank (linished only), stock vw rods, stock AS41 case tunnel bored 0.5mm on the mains, machined for 90.5mm cylinders and full flowed, stock cam with the original vw lifters radiused, vw pushrods and stock valves with new guides, stock type 3 rockers. Original type 3 heads with new seats 3 angle cut, std flywheel with LUK sprung disc and kennedy stage 2 pressure plate, new 26mm oil pump anodised with berg pressure relief cover and berg filter mount with a golf oil filter.


Back then I didn't own a camera so there are a lot of projects that I never took pics for. Fortunately I took some pics of the first engine rebuild some were lost but this is what I could find...

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/103-0384_IMG.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/104-0430_IMG.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/104-0424_IMG.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/DSC00167.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/DSC00168.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/DSC00169.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/DSC00170.jpg




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posted on February 20th, 2008 at 07:41 PM



The next job was tackling the body after a stupid accident that I had where the rear bumper, valance and decklid were all damaged. I bit the bullet and sent the whole car for abrasive blasting and panel repair. Any rust and damage was repaired and the whole body and panels were blasted, etched and repaired. Here are a few pics of some repair work being done...

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/102-0235_IMG.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/102-0234_IMG.jpg
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http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/102-0240_IMG_800x600.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/102-0242_IMG.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/102-0249_IMG.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/102-0254_IMG.jpg




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posted on February 20th, 2008 at 07:43 PM



All this happened a log time ago but I wanted to share what I have of the project in the way of pics and descriptions. There is heaps to come.



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posted on February 20th, 2008 at 09:34 PM



very nice, well done for keeping at it!!

getting close to your dream car yet?..........turbo still in the "plan"?
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posted on February 20th, 2008 at 10:11 PM



Thanks Damo! Yes it is getting close...very close to ready for the street.
You'll just have to wait a bit longer for more updates!
Turbo? EFI? Hell yeah.




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posted on February 21st, 2008 at 06:55 AM



fk ey. was a nice original looking base to start with. score!

keep the pics coming!

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posted on February 21st, 2008 at 04:58 PM



Here's a few more of the body with the hi-fill applied. Paint shots soon...

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/DSC00084.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/DSC00087.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/DSC00094.jpg
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http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/Dsc00081a.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/Dsc00084a.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/Dsc00093a.jpg




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posted on February 21st, 2008 at 08:45 PM



Looking good, if any filler repairs have not settled by now you woul;d be pissed! Can I ask, what are the louvers for in the front apron, that looks like something you would do with a Suby coversin?



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posted on February 21st, 2008 at 09:01 PM



Thanks GT. Actually they managed to f#$k the bootlid up when they painted it. Almost no filler whatsoever was used anyhow!

You are on the right track re the louvres / flutes on the front. I had them done not for a suby, but for a radiator (or 2 motorcycle ones) to cool a liberty water to air intercooler.

This photobucket thing is really cool. Might whack a few more up of the car painted and being refitted.

Hope to have this thread and the photos caught up to the actual stage the car is at by next week...




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posted on February 29th, 2008 at 02:06 PM



Below are some photos of when the car was last "together".
All new German rubbers were used.
Done heaps since then though...


http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/DSCF1923.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/DSCF1924.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/DSCF1926.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/DSCF1930.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/DSCF1938.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/type3lover/DSCF1958.jpg

Next update will be of what has been going on in the past few months. I'll start with the engine "re-rebuild" and EFI

conversion progress...




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posted on February 29th, 2008 at 02:28 PM
engine "re-rebuild" time


All the pics above were taken during the past 6 years and I have made quite a few changes since those

updates...

I have undertaken an EFI conversion controlled by a Megasquirt II ECU that I bought from the US in kit form.
The engine has been completely rebuilt again. Although it had only done 21 miles since the last rebuild it had been poorly

stored by me for 4 years.
Initially I was going to pull it down, inspect and reassemble and that was all.
When I did this I found that some water had made its way into #3 cylinder bore and had caused a bit of corrosion on the

cylinder wall. It was not an option to just hone it out. Probably would have been just fine for a regular runaround but I

wasn't taking any chances with this motor. The rockers had been left on so the valves hadn't moved for years. That, along

with the fact that they were 40 years old made the decision to replace the springs and have the heads serviced again an easy

one.



As far as the engine internals go I've decided for now to use the same crankcase, crankshaft, flywheel, heads, pushrods and rockers as before.


Here's what new parts have gone into it this time:

- new Mahle P & C kit 90.5mm
- new Eagle #2234 cam from CB performance Eagle Racing Cam - Adv. Duration 274° / Dur. @ .050" 234° / Lift @ cam .387" / Lift w/1.1:1 Rocker Arms .425
- new Scat "hi-rev" single valve springs
- new solid lightweight lifters with low profile bases (from Vintage Vee-Dub)
- new CB billet straight cut steel cam gears
- All new bearings, gaskets, pushrod tubes etc

Pics to follow...




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