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 rose
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| posted on September 14th, 2008 at 06:58 PM |
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what would one of these be worth??
I saw this at Broke Village Fair & Vintage car Display today.
What are they worth very nice looking car.
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| posted on September 14th, 2008 at 08:48 PM |
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Yeah, certainly looks good, I think I saw that at Euro day couple of years back, if you own your house outright you could sell it and get enough for a
deposit on one of those (if you can find one) as I recall it was a one off.
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| posted on September 14th, 2008 at 08:50 PM |
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Way too much money for normal people Rose...
Lee
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| posted on September 14th, 2008 at 10:52 PM |
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I'll give im a dollar. 
p.s. those guards can't be original...unless it's an english car that is. 
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| posted on September 15th, 2008 at 08:05 AM |
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I'd rather have a nice Meyers Manx than that thing.
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| posted on September 15th, 2008 at 01:28 PM |
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What is it?
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| posted on September 15th, 2008 at 03:27 PM |
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Taking a guess at the emblem on the radiator, I'd say a Bugatti or Bentley.
If you can't fix it with a hammer,
you have an electrical problem....
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| posted on September 15th, 2008 at 04:32 PM |
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And who owns the shiny red beetle parked in front of the Mack truck and behind the Cortina?
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| posted on September 15th, 2008 at 04:40 PM |
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jag emblem on inner guard ,maybe a replica le mans jag .ooooo or a real one???
show us your gates
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| posted on September 15th, 2008 at 06:57 PM |
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Hi
That is so ugly, it must be a British car.
Steve
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| posted on September 15th, 2008 at 07:08 PM |
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It says its a special on the side and it's a jag. Maybe a replica.
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| posted on September 15th, 2008 at 07:12 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by thugbug
And who owns the shiny red beetle parked in front of the Mack truck and behind the Cortina?
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I had my oval up there it was parked in front of a Mack truck. There where a few other beetles up there on the day. This is the only other red
bug.
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| posted on September 15th, 2008 at 07:43 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by rose
It says its a special on the side and it's a jag. Maybe a replica.
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It's definitely SPECIAL 
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| posted on September 15th, 2008 at 08:59 PM |
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Ahh,so it was your baby i saw. Ahead of the beetle was a Cortina and beside the Cortina was a personal plated `64 XKE. Saw it on Vintage `Vans
(Caravans) site. cheers
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| posted on September 15th, 2008 at 10:27 PM |
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You know what they say about beauty, lift the bonet on that bugger and see if you don't think it's beautifull
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| posted on September 16th, 2008 at 07:43 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by donn
You know what they say about beauty...
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that it's "skin deep" or that it's "in the eye of the beholder"?
Are you gonna tell me it's got an amazing jag engine? Better be pretty amazing if it's that ugly on the outside. 
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| posted on September 16th, 2008 at 09:29 AM |
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Early C-Type or XK replica would be my bet. No-one would devalue the genuine article with that "bodykit".
I don't think its THAT bad per se, just that the guards look like they're from a different car. Cycle guards would look much better IMHO.
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| posted on September 16th, 2008 at 12:09 PM |
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The guards look like they were stolen off the wiggles car.
If you can't fix it with a hammer,
you have an electrical problem....
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| posted on September 16th, 2008 at 12:58 PM |
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Rose, I think the car you saw belongs to Brian Coe, I found a pic of it on the Triumph register. (number plate has changed since first pic, now says,
BC***)
http://www.tr-register.com.au/Files/coeb.htm
It's called a Kougar, they can come assembled or in kit form, prices start at £ 8995.
http://www.kougar-cars.com/kougar-sports.php
Here is some back ground:
(Taken from Atlas F1 Bulletin board)
When the name of Crosthwaite & Gardiner is mentioned in conversation, folk will conjure up their own idea of what those two names represent.
Having got together, Dick and John started the business back in the Sixties and rapidly established a rapport with one another that would last for
decades. They moved to Buxted in 1969 and started to build the business.
Throughout the Seventies various challenges were undertaken which ranged from dabbling in FFI600 racing to running a full blown Le Mans entry for
Alain de Cadanet, achieving a pretty impressive result in 1978 finishing 3rd!
Whilst all this racing activity was going on the guys still found time to create some, (nowadays well documented), Frazer Nash replicas and also to
come up with a design for a `kit' car, resembling the aforementioned FN, powered by Jaguar engines which was known as the `Kougar', the project was
sold on and is still being produced today.
The Kougar Sports began life as a Crosthwaite & Gardiner project although it was employee Rick Stevens who was apparently responsible for the
car’s design. Stylistically, the Sports was meant to evoke the Frazer Nash Le Mans Rep and cycle-winged HWM, and it originally featured running gear
robbed from the Jaguar S-Type (plus MGB steering rack).
The Cougar (soon changed to Kougar so as not to upset Ford) was officially announced at the July 1977 Pageant of Motoring at Lingfield racecourse,
Surrey (although as many as six body/chassis were already in varying stages of completion by then). The prototype was bodied in aluminium although
‘production’ cars had glassfibre shells.
Initially, the Kougar Sports was produced under the Storcourt Wells Ltd banner with Buxted Motors of Sussex handling the marketing although, and I may
be wrong about this, the car was still being built by Stevens during the 1980s. During this time, the Kougar line-up was bolstered by the arrival of
the Ferrari 750-ish Monza. Production rights passed to Phil Street in 1990 (I think) before moving on again in 1994.
The timing seems right for it to be John Killick who took over the venture in 1994. John had built a very nice dark blue Kougar in the early 80s while
he was working as a body development engineer at Jaguar (many parts of the car received expert "help" from various members of the Experimental
shop!). At the time, he was one of the crowd of misfits who were lodging with Norman and Nan Dewis at Mill Farm, and it is rumoured that the mortal
remains of the S-type which gave up its components to the Kougar actually got buried at the farm one weekend - some judicious work with a
tractor-mounted backhoe covered up the evidence!
John sold the car when he embarked on a major renovation of a Daimler SP250, but kept an interest in the fate of the Kougar brand. He came from the
Brighton area, so regarded them as a "home" team of sorts. He left Jaguar shortly before I did (1990?) to take control of Red Triangle Motors, the
Alvis spares company. After this, he somehow gained control of Kougar - the details are hazy - but I don't know how long this went on, but there is a
picture on the web showing him driving a Kougar in a speed event in 1997.
http://hugop.users.btopenworld.com/kougars/racing.htm
I moved to the US around this time and lost contact with him. Last I heard, he was Director of the Mulliner division of Bentley, producing bespoke
motor cars for the gentry, so his ongoing passion for special cars was no doubt in play.
One amusing story about John's Kougar - he drove it to Le Mans one year (as did a large crowd of Jaguar employees) and somehow got involved with the
start of one of the historic demonstrations and was waved out onto the track for a few laps! The Kougar did have a very authentic look, so it is
possible the gendarmes were confused, but it is also possible that Julian Ghosh (latterly President of the VSCC) was involved in the scam since he was
good friend of John's and I think had a C-type (legitimately!) in the parade.
Better start saving up Rose
Regards,
Matt.
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rose
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| posted on September 16th, 2008 at 06:43 PM |
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Thanks Matt that's some interesting information. I might win lotto tonight then I could buy some more toys
CU
Rose
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| posted on September 16th, 2008 at 07:59 PM |
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Thats all real interesting, great to be able to delve into trhe history of unusual cars, though it proves that it wasn't the car that I was thinking
of, still reckon it looks damned fine.
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| posted on September 16th, 2008 at 08:18 PM |
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definitely rather the e type beside it. 
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| posted on September 17th, 2008 at 12:55 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by sinecure
Early C-Type or XK replica would be my bet. No-one would devalue the genuine article with that "bodykit".
I don't think its THAT bad per se, just that the guards look like they're from a different car. Cycle guards would look much better IMHO.
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have you ever seen a C-type or an XK? they are a world away from this thing. Do yourself a favour a look at a few pics of old jags.
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| posted on September 17th, 2008 at 04:41 PM |
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the full fendered car looks great, but I hate those 'cycle' fenders. they are just plain aweful from any angle than from the front.
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| posted on September 18th, 2008 at 07:55 PM |
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Hey I saw this car this morning going through East Maitland, it was going towards Green Hills and I was going the opposite way so only got a quick
glimps, tell me the driver was'nt wearing a leather old time flying helmet . please tell me that cause it looked like that with the quick glimpse I
got.
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| posted on September 18th, 2008 at 08:32 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by donn
Hey I saw this car this morning going through East Maitland, it was going towards Green Hills and I was going the opposite way so only got a quick
glimps, tell me the driver was'nt wearing a leather old time flying helmet . please tell me that cause it looked like that with the quick glimpse I
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Yes that would have been it cause on the day he had the leather flying hat and gogles very funny if he wears that stuff hey.
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| posted on September 19th, 2008 at 05:07 AM |
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Oh, so sad.
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