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| posted on January 19th, 2009 at 08:40 AM |
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How close is too close?? Lowering question
I've just put the Porsche 944 turbo brakes and Porsche turbo twists on my 61 Karmann cabrio using modified CB Performance dropped spindles
Luckily I've done this without having to narrow the beam which is typical when doing this conversion. My question is regarding guard clearance. The
wheels are just on the rim of the guard as shown in the pic below. There is probably 4-5cm of clearance from the top of the wheel to the guard.
I was wondering how much clearance you need here for when the suspension compresses to stop rubbing etc. I like the idea of having a stock beam with
only dropped spindles achieving the drop. That way I keep a good turning circle.
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| posted on January 19th, 2009 at 08:41 AM |
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drivers side with the wheel turned a bit.
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| posted on January 19th, 2009 at 08:45 AM |
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Another showing the stance. The rear needs dropping a notch or two.
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| posted on January 19th, 2009 at 08:51 AM |
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they will definately rub........probably on most bumps at that height, and definately around corners, sorry
bloody nice ride !
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| posted on January 19th, 2009 at 08:57 AM |
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the luft lads maybe able to give you some ideas..
http://www.melburgluft.com/viewforum.php?f=10
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| posted on January 19th, 2009 at 09:32 AM |
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So should I weld in some adjusters to allow me to raise it up a little bit, and fine tune it so it doesn't rub.
Will narrowing help out at all?
I've posted on Melburgluft to see what they say.
Thanks
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| posted on January 19th, 2009 at 10:02 AM |
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ive found that even a full tank of fuel will drop it down further so you should keep that in account, when you drop the rear it will come up in the
front a bit but the weight of a driver and a passenger let alone fuel will bring it down considerably
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| posted on January 19th, 2009 at 10:43 AM |
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So should I weld in some adjusters to allow me to raise it up a little bit, and fine tune it so it doesn't rub.
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yeah do it!........fine tuning "rake" makes a hell of a difference to handling too among all the other benefits
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| posted on January 19th, 2009 at 10:45 AM |
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Hi Steve
Its hard to tell from those photos how close it will be, can you get any more negative on the front?
I'm surprised that the rears don't fit under, I ran 15x7s with 23 ET under the rear on my 1973 1300 bug, using an online wheel calculator those
wheels (8.5 with 50 ET) should be 8mm better on outside clearance than 7s with a 23 ET.
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| posted on January 19th, 2009 at 11:49 AM |
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Steve,
I think I'll weld some adjusters in there and then I can set the ride height.
The rears are 8.5xET50 and they foul the springplate when mounted on 84NA backing plates with Boxster S disks. The studs in the hub are very long
(80-90mm) and would have to put a 20mm spacer on there just to be able to put the nuts on the wheels (just using washers to work it all out) . I think
I could easily get away with a 5mm with shorter studs, but I don't think the 8.5" wheel will get under the standard guard at all.
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| posted on January 20th, 2009 at 09:08 AM |
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Hi Steve
If you look at the car for sale by user 1303 on these forums you can see that he has the same wheels under stock guards. Maybe you can get shorter
studs?
Steve
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| posted on January 20th, 2009 at 10:02 AM |
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Steve,
I run 9 x 17 996 wheels with 55 ET with standard rear guards. I use a Porshalink Hubcentric 25mm spacer/hub. Mind you I have a 225 strected over the
rim, so the tyre is a more or less the same width as the rim, which makes it easier to fit under the guard.
When mocking it all up, I had the tyres removed so that I could tell what needed to be where. I found that I had to clearance one of the spring plate
bolts so that the rim did not foul on it.
Hope that helps.
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| posted on January 20th, 2009 at 11:10 AM |
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1303, Can I get a pic of your rear wheel if you've got one handy. I never thought about using a smaller tyre to bring it in a bit. My preference is
to stick with stock guards if I can get away with it. Not sure if having an early 61 body on a later IRS pan means I lose a bit of clearance space.
Thanks
Steve
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