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 typethreeking
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| posted on June 6th, 2010 at 03:46 PM |
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most hp with vw heads
who knows what the highest horsepower engine combo is with vw heads in australia( either n/a or other)??
[size=6] BEING ASPIRATED FEELS GREAT BUT BEING BLOWN TAKES THING TO A WHOLE NEWLEVEL...[/size].
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| posted on June 6th, 2010 at 06:16 PM |
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I'll sell them to you Troy.
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| posted on June 6th, 2010 at 06:23 PM |
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 ... and the rest of the engine?
Reub
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| posted on June 6th, 2010 at 06:30 PM |
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Gee your fast Reubs. You know the rules , firsts dibs to you on anything I sell.
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| posted on June 6th, 2010 at 06:33 PM |
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 hahaha... cheers dude. We all know you're not about to sell
anything though 
Reub
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| posted on June 6th, 2010 at 06:33 PM |
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I was going to say RR's,
but Rene in adelaide has a set that made 200 at the flywheel on 2387cc.
They had the exhaust guide moved over to allow a 48mm intake valve in there.
Yes they were for sale last time I asked,(no valves.... they were Ti and robbed fo his new heads))
but are only 040 castings from memory.
.... but despite claims to the contrary,
the 040 and 043 castings can work ,and seal up fine, on 94 bores.
I made about 275hp on my 1775cc blower engine, with 043s (127mph@1750 or so),
and wallys turbocharged engine made more usable power,(no blower losses) with my old 40x35, 044s
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| posted on June 6th, 2010 at 07:05 PM |
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i would WANT 044 as theres more meat up in the chamber area and they will last longer
rather than the 040 or 043s
I have the 044s on my daily driver and no probs with heat disipation
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| posted on June 6th, 2010 at 07:56 PM |
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.... but despite claims to the contrary,
the 040 and 043 castings can work ,and seal up fine, on 94 bores.
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Yep no probs machining 043's "out" for 94 bores, just dont go "down" ! Great for strokers or blown motors, useless if you want good compression
on a smaller motor.
you can go deeper using the 040's.
Troy is the question relating to "stock VW heads" or to highly modified heads that started out being stock VW ?
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| posted on June 6th, 2010 at 08:03 PM |
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yeah so STOCK heads dont give u horsepower dont waste yr money
start with something that can be up graded 044s
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| posted on June 6th, 2010 at 08:45 PM |
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this topic was brought up in conversation the other day and was just wondering what power people had made starting with a stock vw head and modifying
them to whatever they wanted to make power. o44 are still the same as a stock in shape, unlike comp eliiminators and the like if you know what i mean
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| posted on June 7th, 2010 at 02:51 PM |
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WESTI 230HP @ WHEELS N/A ON 044'S
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| posted on June 7th, 2010 at 05:21 PM |
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According to calculations on paper westi should be making around 216-220HP with that head, valve, displacement combo.
230HP is a true testament of westi's workmanship and ability to seriously push the boundaries in the NA vw scene, not surprising if you guys get more
out of the heads.
rock on.
bitten by the bug..........several times
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| posted on June 7th, 2010 at 05:39 PM |
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What's westi's best time/mph and weight?
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| posted on June 7th, 2010 at 08:27 PM |
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I think it depends on who has the biggest packet of alloy welding rods lol to weld em up lol
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| posted on June 7th, 2010 at 09:03 PM |
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Westi's are unwelded I believe.
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| posted on June 7th, 2010 at 11:15 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Westi's are unwelded I believe.
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| posted on June 8th, 2010 at 04:32 PM |
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Hi Reub,
I think I may have spotted the cause of your recent engine woes.....
hth
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| posted on June 8th, 2010 at 08:38 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Hi Reub,
I think I may have spotted the cause of your recent engine woes.....
hth
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LOL... that's Westi's head dude...
Mind you, it is in the same context, like throwing $'s away...
Reub
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| posted on June 8th, 2010 at 09:28 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by reub
| Quote: | Originally
posted by modulus
Hi Reub,
I think I may have spotted the cause of your recent engine woes.....
hth
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LOL... that's Westi's head dude...
Mind you, it is in the same context, like throwing $'s away...
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.............you need another 19,999 coins dude !
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 posted on June 8th, 2010 at 10:48 PM |
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Type-4 stock heads modified 360bhp
in 2006 I took a stock pair of 2 litre type-4 heads and modified them for my turbo oval . There was a considerable amount of welding and porting
perfomed on the heads , 50x41mm titanium valves fitted on ally-bronze valve seats and the results were as follows .
360bhp @ the rear wheels on 24psi boost.....
These heads are still in good condition and are about to be fitted to my sports sedan , to make way for the new combo going into the oval .
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| posted on June 9th, 2010 at 08:49 AM |
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Crikey Wayne.....they're HUGE 
Looks like a hole in one
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| posted on June 9th, 2010 at 03:04 PM |
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Wow Wayne, how did you go with the pushrod tubes around the stub pipes - must have been very tight?
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| posted on June 9th, 2010 at 05:17 PM |
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hey wayne, whats the new combo for the oval???
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| posted on June 9th, 2010 at 06:07 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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hey wayne, whats the new combo for the oval???
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Can I have a wild guess.??......type IV about 2.7 with Pauter T 1 style heads....
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| Quote: | Originally
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Wow Wayne, how did you go with the pushrod tubes around the stub pipes - must have been very tight?
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the secret to maximum exhaust flow through my stub pipes was to flatten the exhaust tube into an oval shape and then modify/flat-spot the pushrod
tubes to fit with the stub pipes .
when I assemble this engine the exhaust stub pipes must be fitted to the heads before fitting the pushrod tubes . Its all tight , but works really
well and I was turning the 2868ml engine to 8200rpm and was not uncommon to see 8600rpm .
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| posted on June 9th, 2010 at 07:44 PM |
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he hears that all the time
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Crikey Wayne.....they're HUGE
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| posted on June 11th, 2010 at 01:13 AM |
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I hear Hermann (here in WA) is making an estimated 450 with his turbo TIV ragtop.... It was closer to 500 (South African dyno!) in its last guise, but
he dropped the comp and did a little more headwork when he fitted it into his Bug.... Stock 2ltr bottom-end so he tells us too.... 
Hopefully get him on a dyno sometime soon...
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| posted on June 11th, 2010 at 05:23 PM |
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CB 044 castings un ported with 87mm bore on a 1641. Made 165 rwhp and 746nm of torque (3rd gear run)to the tyes with my first turbo vw motor.
The same motor run up naturally aspirated with a pair of 40 IDF webbers made 36 rwhp in 4th gear.
Really shows how heads is where the power is, and nothing overcomes flow restrictions like a boost does.
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| posted on June 11th, 2010 at 06:31 PM |
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Made 165 rwhp and 746nm of torque....
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That's just madness!!!!!!!
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| posted on June 16th, 2010 at 02:04 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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CB 044 castings un ported with 87mm bore on a 1641. Made 165 rwhp and 746nm of torque
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Thats awesome power dude... what was the boost pressure and what type of fuel used ? that is the best horsepower I have ever heard of from a 1641
engine...well done!!
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